Bolty,Oct 17 2005, 07:44 AM Wrote:Because every time people get antsy and not let the tank establish aggro, us healers have to heal your butts.
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Or, as you (correctly) noted when I snapped at everyone... let them die. For most people, being allowed to die repeatedly rather than having their asses pulled out of the fire when they screw up is a great training exercise.
However, the larger problem is, indeed, that most of the people on these runs are used to psychotic 1-hour UBRS runs where there's virtually no risk of a wipe, and they're failing to get that there are people who are (1) still unfamiliar with the instance, like you or (2) may be getting their first experiences in a raiding environment with a new class, like I was on the first run.
You can blast through an instance and still do things properly. The things we're complaining about here are not a function of tiptoeing through the instance afraid of multiple pulls. The thing that bit us in the ass on both raids is something I have yelled at everyone about on virtually every UBRS run I've ever led, and people still don't freakin' get it: in that upstairs room just before the Beast, everyone has to stay in the back half of the room and let the pullers pull the mobs back into the center. Rushing forward to clog the entrance to the ramp has nothing to do with saving time on the instance, and everything to do with people being too damned impatient to hit something.
I've caught a lot of good-natured hell in the past because when I'd lead a 10-15 man raid on a level 60 instance, I'd be a little "too" careful... but I'm starting to think it's more that I was being a little too disciplined for a herd of cats to want to cope with. And while Onyxia is farmable, and parts of MC are becoming downright trivial, unless we practice discipline in places like UBRS, we're going to get omgwtfpwned in BWL. This game is designed so that you can't just throw more ammo at a problem, at least not until you've quit trying to throw more ammo at it and gotten the routine down.
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