kandrathe,Oct 11 2005, 12:24 PM Wrote:Heh, sounds like a mage trying to figure out how to die. Ok, it can be done if you really want to try.
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Been there, seen that, picked boss back up after mage died. You're right, I've seen lots of dumb aggro tricks, *including* stupid warrior tricks. Pyroblast, Aimed Shot, and Ambush openers all made my list.
Here's a warrior DOH! (Keep in mind I've got defiance specced) "taunt is for n00bs. I can hold aggro in Battle stance with my 2h better than you can in defensive stance" "If you say so" <Mob sprints to healer on second heal, I grab mob, tank it, group kills it> "WTF, you took my mob!!" "Only after it left you for the healer" "Well, quit messing up my tanking, n00b!" Next pull goes same way. I whisper to raid leader "I know I said I didn't want to MT this run, but with this guy along I will be anyway, dump him" <idiot> has left the group. /w to me "OMGWTF why was I kicked! OMG n00b!" I whisper back "have a nice day" /ignore As an aside, the use of 'n00b' pretty much red-flags a player to me anyway, unless they show me otherwise. Using that around me is an open invitation to get booted on the first stupid screwup if I'm group leader.
Probably the hardest time I had was getting a hunter not to use Concussive Shot to slow a mob I had just pulled (I hadn't actually shot it, just stepped out far enough to get it to come to me, aboms just before Baron again). As soon as it would head for me, he'd slow it. Which of course is completely not what I wanted, I wanted it on me quickly, taunt, sunder, revenge, kill! He kept insisting that Concussive shot couldnt' draw any aggro since it does no damage! I let the 4th one he did that to kill him. He finally got the point.
I've had mages do it, and did the same thing. Death is a good teacher. i have no problem with hunters in my groups, btw. I don't subscribe to 'hunters always pull' or 'warrior always pulls' or anything like that. It just depends. To me, hunter is another good DPS dealer, that has other good group abilities if needed. However, if I'm in LBRS and I have 2 rogues and a mage for CC, the hunter won't be laying traps much. It's not that traps are bad. It's that too many groups aren't patient enough for traps to work. If we have to depend on them, that's different. As MT I'll call a hunter to pull stuff sometimes, like bat patrols in UD Strat, using their longer range, or to pull the first parts of SM Cathedral onto the grass. Experienced players use the abilities that they need of the classes they have in group, at the time they're needed. End of story.
Just keep in mind, my additions to this thread have been typed while giggling/chuckling. Rainbow Brite FTW!! (that's funny, I'll have to repeat that in guild chat)
--Mav