Just Another Political Post.

Linear Mode

Just Another Political Post.

Occhidiangela Offline

Offline

Posting Freak

Posts: 6,430
Threads: 204
Joined: Feb 2003

#162

09-27-2005, 07:18 PM

eppie,Sep 27 2005, 07:51 AM Wrote:--when a state starts arresting political enemies for example.

1.  Another example are most dictatorships, in a normal society people can always fall back on the government to help them. If the government is wrong, you don't have anybody to fall back on. (of course your gun, if you have one)

But I know that people that commited crimes like smoking softdrugs or drunk driving later sometimes finish in very nice jobs, so just arresting them and sending them to prison for years is not always the right thing.
[right][snapback]90283[/snapback][/right]

Two different points you are commenting on.

1. There is no such thing as a normal society. Each society has its own quirks and nuances. Its own character.

2. The attitude of dependency on government that you propose is uniquely Enlightenment Elitist European in origin, and has a substantial fan base in certain sectors in America. It is the appeal to the citizen to be a victim and a sheep who looks to the paternalistic shepard state. We covered the dynamic of shepard and sheep previously. Got lube? :blink:

3. I tend to agree with you :D on your last bit, in that prison is not the one size fits all answer to all crimes, particularly misdemeanors. and that increasing the prison population is a negative trend in a civilized society. I'd like to see less folks in jail for being drug users, and more chain gangs and road clean up crews.

Occhi

Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete

Find

Reply

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 03:03 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-18-2005, 05:13 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 05:15 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-18-2005, 06:01 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 06:27 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-18-2005, 06:40 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Brother Laz - 09-18-2005, 09:37 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 09:47 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Archon_Wing - 09-18-2005, 10:08 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 10:10 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-18-2005, 10:34 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-18-2005, 10:35 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 10:39 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-18-2005, 10:54 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-18-2005, 11:00 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-18-2005, 11:58 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Chaerophon - 09-19-2005, 12:04 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-19-2005, 01:42 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-19-2005, 02:36 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 03:00 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 03:10 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 03:16 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Chaerophon - 09-19-2005, 03:17 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-19-2005, 03:32 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-19-2005, 04:15 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 04:32 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Roland - 09-19-2005, 04:33 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Cybit - 09-19-2005, 04:38 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 04:41 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 04:42 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 04:44 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 04:47 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 04:51 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Chaerophon - 09-19-2005, 05:09 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-19-2005, 11:32 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 01:09 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Nystul - 09-19-2005, 01:10 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 01:15 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Nystul - 09-19-2005, 01:34 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 01:46 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-19-2005, 01:58 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 02:19 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-19-2005, 02:42 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-19-2005, 03:04 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Nystul - 09-19-2005, 03:12 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-19-2005, 03:19 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 03:28 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-19-2005, 03:35 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-19-2005, 04:19 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 04:30 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-19-2005, 04:33 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 04:36 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Ashock - 09-19-2005, 04:45 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-19-2005, 05:25 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-19-2005, 05:28 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Archon_Wing - 09-19-2005, 07:21 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-20-2005, 01:25 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-20-2005, 01:33 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-20-2005, 03:42 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-20-2005, 04:41 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-20-2005, 04:49 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-20-2005, 01:39 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-20-2005, 02:00 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-20-2005, 02:17 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-20-2005, 02:33 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-20-2005, 02:42 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-20-2005, 02:43 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-20-2005, 09:16 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-20-2005, 09:30 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-20-2005, 10:25 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-20-2005, 11:40 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-20-2005, 11:55 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-21-2005, 12:05 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 12:12 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Roland - 09-21-2005, 12:37 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 12:46 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 01:01 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Chaerophon - 09-21-2005, 01:35 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:20 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-21-2005, 02:23 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:23 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Archon_Wing - 09-21-2005, 02:25 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:30 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-21-2005, 02:42 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-21-2005, 02:49 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 03:52 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 04:01 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 04:03 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 04:29 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-21-2005, 04:56 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-21-2005, 05:04 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Chaerophon - 09-21-2005, 05:07 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-21-2005, 05:39 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-21-2005, 05:41 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-21-2005, 06:08 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-21-2005, 07:24 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-21-2005, 07:26 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by gekko - 09-21-2005, 01:18 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-21-2005, 01:40 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:30 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-21-2005, 02:34 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:35 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:38 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 02:44 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by gekko - 09-21-2005, 02:52 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-21-2005, 02:59 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 03:01 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-21-2005, 03:05 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 03:24 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-21-2005, 03:46 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 04:03 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 04:05 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by gekko - 09-21-2005, 04:10 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 04:38 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-21-2005, 05:22 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 05:52 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 06:00 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-21-2005, 06:08 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by gekko - 09-21-2005, 06:50 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by kandrathe - 09-21-2005, 07:43 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-21-2005, 07:43 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-21-2005, 07:45 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 10:20 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 10:25 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 10:37 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-21-2005, 10:41 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-21-2005, 11:54 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-22-2005, 12:18 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-22-2005, 12:37 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-22-2005, 12:39 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 09-22-2005, 12:40 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by --Pete - 09-22-2005, 01:10 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-22-2005, 01:31 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-22-2005, 01:36 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-22-2005, 01:47 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-22-2005, 02:57 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-22-2005, 02:59 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 03:32 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-22-2005, 03:46 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 03:53 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-22-2005, 06:52 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-22-2005, 07:32 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-22-2005, 07:46 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-22-2005, 10:13 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-22-2005, 01:14 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 01:25 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by ShadowHM - 09-22-2005, 05:23 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 07:21 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by ShadowHM - 09-22-2005, 08:20 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 08:30 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Archon_Wing - 09-22-2005, 10:47 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 09-22-2005, 11:08 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Archon_Wing - 09-22-2005, 11:18 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-26-2005, 06:40 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-26-2005, 06:52 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-26-2005, 08:18 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Minionman - 09-26-2005, 09:19 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 09-27-2005, 06:13 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by ShadowHM - 09-27-2005, 12:10 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-27-2005, 01:51 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 09-27-2005, 07:18 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 09-28-2005, 07:04 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-03-2005, 06:05 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-03-2005, 06:15 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-03-2005, 02:10 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by eppie - 10-03-2005, 03:21 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 10-03-2005, 03:51 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-04-2005, 05:31 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-04-2005, 02:08 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 10-04-2005, 03:46 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-05-2005, 05:05 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 10-05-2005, 03:38 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Taem - 10-06-2005, 02:56 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-06-2005, 03:26 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 10-06-2005, 03:48 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-06-2005, 12:11 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 10-06-2005, 12:40 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by jahcs - 10-06-2005, 03:50 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-07-2005, 06:40 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 10-07-2005, 06:50 AM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-07-2005, 05:29 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 10-07-2005, 06:11 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Occhidiangela - 10-07-2005, 10:18 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by Doc - 10-07-2005, 10:56 PM

Just Another Political Post. - by whyBish - 10-10-2005, 06:10 AM

View a Printable Version

Users browsing this thread: 18 Guest(s)