Just Another Political Post.

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There is no need for them to spend years on death row.  If a jury of twelve finds them guilty beyond reasonable doubt (although over here with the move to allow 11-1 decisions those would have to be voided from the penalty), then get the job done rather than clogging up the legal system and jails.

Yes but that is the whole difficulty. And also in the USA they know this, at least it gives people time to fight their death sentence, which also happens once in a while succesfully. I agree with you that "a proven" criminal could be executed two days after the death sentence, but this is just theoretical talk. Being a civilized nation costs money.

I'm particularly with Occhi when he says don't be in stupid places at stupid times... one ought to know not to 'polish ones firearm at a gas station' ;)

--this I don't really get..

It's not about deterring crimes from happening, it's about stopping future crimes by a proven criminal... if you want to deter crimes, this measure at least wont make people more likely to commit.  You can do this and still put your other deterrent policies in place such as reducing poverty... in fact the amounts saved could be directly transferred to the poor if you want.

Of course there are different things here. The fact is also that somebody who spend 20 years in jail between teh scum of the earth, gets free, has no job etc. is very likely to go back to being a criminal....because there is not that much choice....of course there is....and they are always responsible for their own deeds (I agree) but facts are facts...these people often go back to crime......and that is the problem of the "good people" as well.

"Common decency" is about not commiting capital crimes in the first place.  I thought that would have been obvious.  If you break that rule then don't expect society to be decent in return.

Yes but thus is all very easy to say. When you live somewhere with millions of people, there will always be several that are not able to behave in a decent way....it is just after the state starts acting undecent that things go really wrong.

Mind you, I'd probably also argue that capitalism demands killing those that would take more from the state than give... j/k  :P
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