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09-21-2005, 06:50 PM

Oddly enough, Pete, my train of thought follows yours very closely.

If I saw a significant reduction in crime where the death penalty exists, I would certainly reconsider my position. However, when I conisder my odds of being a victim - of the state or of some criminal - I see things this way:

My chances of being the victim of some criminal exists whether we execute murderers or not. My chances of being wrongly executed by the state exist only if the state executes people.

I do freely admit that the numbers are small - that is self-evident. Believe it or not, my questions and the numbers I threw out were born of an honest curiosity to see what people here consider an acceptable threshold. Does everyone consider the current system good enough, as Occhi does?

Personally, I am more interested in the question of live in prison vs. the death penalty - how much more of a deterrant is one vs. the other? How cruel or humane is one vs. the other? Should public taxes be used to keep dangerous offendors alive for 50+ years?

gekko

"Life is sacred and you are not its steward. You have stewardship over it but you don't own it. You're making a choice to go through this, it's not just happening to you. You're inviting it, and in some ways delighting in it. It's not accidental or coincidental. You're choosing it. You have to realize you've made choices."
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