09-21-2005, 04:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-21-2005, 04:43 PM by Occhidiangela.)
gekko,Sep 21 2005, 10:10 AM Wrote:1.  Since we can never have an absolutely foolproof process, the only solution is to scrap the process entirely.Â
2. That's where my opinion on this subject stems from - since the death penalty is so final, so irreversible, I refuse to accept even a statistically insignificant percentage of mistakes.Â
3. In my opinion, the death penalty is not enough of a deterrant beyond other penalties to warrant taking a single innocent life. I do respect that there are other opinions on this subject, however.
gekko
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Your points were numbered for simplicity in reply. No words changed.
1. False. Any claim to have an "only" option is no option at all. One option is to scrap the process. The other is to improve the process. The process is good enough, and if it can be improved, I am all for it, and yet it will still only be good enough. That is good enough for me.
2. Nice fancy words for a demand for zero defects. You don't pay for it, I don't pay for it, we can't expect it. That is no reason to throw our hands in the air and give up, to quit.
Note: you included another zero defects assumption.
Quote:If one is unwilling to accept even a single innocent person being executed, then one must insist on an absolutely foolproof process.
You successfully set up a straw man for your zero defects game, so at least the crows won't eat the corn from your field of dreams. :wacko:
Zero defects is as useful an underlying premise for any decision as isentropic power generation.
3. Deterrence isn't the issue with me, I can't deter a murder that already happened. Justice and punishment is the issue. I don't feel like feeding a murderer for the next 40 years of his or her life, I want to feed him or her to the worms.
Are we done now?
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete