09-09-2005, 08:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2005, 09:35 PM by MongoJerry.)
Quark,Sep 8 2005, 02:30 PM Wrote:Hehe, unfortunately MS and Fury warriors are amazingly effective (in their own ways), so this guild could be extra lenient in those cases.
Ah, the benefit of being Alliance. Our guild is actually having a set of warriors switch to protection spec, so that they can hold aggro onto Vael and the other BWL bosses better. Hopefully, the Paladin seal that affects aggro will be nerfed against those bosses as has been discussed previously, so you can feel our pain.
Quote:Next patch, Hunters can be Marksmanship and Survival combined, as long as you get essential 21 or 31 point skills! As for Mages, they should be Ice for raids, with varying levels of Arcane compared to Ice. No fire for you!
Sounds like your guild is going way overboard. Of course, our guild considers the WoW end-game to be PvP and the raiding content merely a way to get PvP equipment, so we don't like to gimp our players in PvP unless we absolutely have to to pass a certain boss.
Regarding priests, the "no shadow points at all" requirement is BS. At most, a priest should be required to put in 10 points into holy -- Improved Renew (which, yes, is very useful) and Spiritual Healing. Other than that, they should be free to spend their talents as they wish, since the shadow tree has some very useful talents in it.
Quote:Just because some people think that a 21 point talent is better then a 31 does not mean your trees are screwed up. I'm not saying they are or aren't, but that fact does not mean they are.
The main problem with Holy Nova is that you have to somehow spend another 30 points in the Holy Tree to get it, and there aren't 30 points worth of useful talents in the tree to spend on. Regarding Holy Nova itself, though, I've already said in other threads that it should go back to being an offensive spell the way it was in the beta, only with serviceable damage. I'd say make it deal 350 damage to all targets in a 10 yard radius with a 5 second cooldown. That would be nowhere near what mages or warlocks can do, but it would let a holy priest do something no other kind of priest can do and fill a niche role as an aoe support class -- like a shaman's fire totem or hunter's volley.
By the way, I just recently respec'd again (now up to 45g to respec!) to 26/25 disc/holy. I didn't even realize it was a standard build, although it'd be interesting to compare where the points are spent (I didn't bother with Subtlety). But anyway, I finally got my 3-piece transcendence set, which gives +15% mana regeneration while casting, so by placing talent points in the discipline tree, I now get a total of 30% mana regeneration while casting. Combine that with excellent other equipment and the mana efficiency that other discipline and holy talents give, and I hardly ever run out of mana now. Once I finally get my Benediction staff (we never kill Kazzak when I'm on, grrrr!) and enchant it with +55 healing spells, I might be able to start getting away with using Rank 1 Flash Heal a lot, which would mean I would never run out of mana at all.