08-20-2005, 02:14 PM
MongoJerry,Aug 20 2005, 01:48 AM Wrote:I'm sorry to say that this is your own guild's fault. These are exploits pure and simple. You can try to call it "oversights on Blizzard's part" and try to justify their use by saying that one can do it within the game without the use of 3rd party programs, but the bottom line is that these are exploits, and you can't expect other people to play with you when you use them. Plus, if your guild had to resort to using them to win, then your guild probably wasn't very good at PvPing to begin with./clap /bow
On Tichondrius, we had a really good run of fair games of Warsong Gulch. Looking back, it was quite remarkable really, considering some of the animosity between some guilds on the server. But the bottom line was that people realized was that if people used cheap tactics like using the Mind Control/BoP trick, using the Judge's Gavel (It's possible that your guild invented those tricks, but I wouldn't bet on it -- they're pretty obvious and well known), or Mind Controling people out of the instance, then that would be the end of CTF on Tichondrius -- just like what happened on your server. So people didn't use the tricks, despite knowing all about them -- or in the rare cases where a person did use them, the person's teammates would shout at the person for using such cheap tactics. There was one game where things did blow up, however. Notorious seemed to pull out all the stops one game and seemed to use every cheap trick in the book, including having the flag carrier disconnect at a crucial point which made him appear to slide way over across the map. So, we pulled the "nuclear option" and placed our flag carrier in a special spot in the Horde base where the alliance can't get to or hit the flag carrier no matter what they try and then sent nine people off to kill the Notorious flag carrier. We ended up winning that cheating game, and the forums blew up as you can imagine.
But then, a remarkable thing happened. Cooler heads prevailed. It turns out that the Notorious player really did have a crappy computer and did disconnect at that moment. We also talked stuff out and discussed some of the ground rules on CTF and cleared the air a bit. And you know what happened? The next night TO and Notorious matched up again and TO beat them 3-2 fair and square in an incredibly fun two hour match that I still remember vividly. People went back to playing CTF, and we all had a ball with it. Unfortunately, people have recently been playing AV more, because the cp is so easy to get there and because the items you get for reputation are so godly. But still, people speak fondly of the old CTF games and say they'd love to go back if only the cp gains from it were comparable to what you get for AV.
It's easy to say, "all's fair in love and war" and pass off your opponent's complaints of dirty tricks as simple whining. But your poor paladin who will never gain knighthood is a testament to what can happen as the result of such shortsightedness.
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