07-25-2005, 07:11 PM
NotSoDarklord,Jul 25 2005, 02:45 PM Wrote:Can you really blame them darian? I've been on vent during MC/Onyxia lurker runs, and what do you know what I hear more than anything? Chaos and frustration. Endgame content is supposed to be challenging, but it's not supposed to make you upset... you are still supposed to enjoy this GAME. I've heard some of the horror stories as well. Multiple raids wiped by a single person who's just a tad slow to stop attacking onyxia at the beginning of stage 3?
I wonder how many other lurker/CA people secretly voice dissatisfaction with the state of how things were going... because while there is progression... that progression just isn't coming easy/quickly by any means. I've HEARD people yelled at, and at the same time I've seen/heard of mistakes of a colossal nature. Mistakes that are simply a matter of not paying attention. To raid you need a high percentage of people paying attention to balance out those that aren't. The top end guilds have everyone focused when they try something new (or at least that's my opinion).
There is a difference in the players in these guilds mind you. That alone is a reason that makes them so appealing. I never really see aggro taken on onyxia by an app to IA. I've never really seen anyone fail to get the stage 3 progression right and stop attacking. Never seen people fail to run when they have the geddon bomb. A new hunter fail to tranq mag...etc. (these examples were just to show that even the new people... the ones that don't know the encounters other than vaguely via CQ website... still aren't making some of the mistakes I hear happening again and again) These mistakes are to some extent a measure of that person's ability to play their class. Now I understand that mistakes happen... but in the fights where a single inattentive person can wipe the raid or at least cripple it... things can get real frustrating real fast.
And here is where I attempt to back off a bit so I don't get flamed to all hell. I love the lurkers. I think it's a great social guild/atmosphere. Let me say though that some people just want more? If I was still in lurkers would you expect someone who can raid 7 days a week to actually settle for 2 if I'm lucky? 2 people WILL NOT kill the lurkers. 3 people wont. It's a serious blow especially given the players, but just how many people is lurkers short of to even try to do raiding with a casual atmosphere. Militis Justica does it... and by my last count there were over 130 active 60's (with some hardcore players and some casual they can field a raid 3-4 times a week)
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What a backhanded compliment.
Not certain how else I can reply but...wow.