07-18-2005, 04:05 AM
I, too, would like to do this at some point, but things like Onyxia and Ragnaros are higher on my list or priorites (not to mention actually leveling a char to 60 in the first place ;-)) I'll go ahead and throw in my $0.02 anyway.
If the goal is to kill all the opposing faction leaders I think it would be better to start with the easier ones and work up to Thrall. Since the AH is in Orgrimmar, it is usually just as crowded as IF. From my PvP experience (Southshore/Taurn Mill before BG, some WG and watching a lot of WG and a little AV and just dueling in general) superior numbers can overwhelm just about any well-organized group. Organization can certainly make up for some difference in numbers, but after a point there's just nothing more tactics can do for you. So, to run through the middle of Ogrimmar successfully, I think you'd have to round up pretty much everyone in IF for that raid.
So, I suspect your plan could work by simply progressing as far as possible toward Thrall, dieing, running back from Razor Hill, rezzing, and then repeating until you are in the throne room. I doubt most people would have the patience to see this through, though, and the Horde would likely have a decent group organized to aid Thrall by the time we managed to attack him. You would probably have to get everyone to rez in the throne room at the same time and try and take down Thrall before his bodyguards and the other Horde players wiped out the raid group again.
If you want to move the raid group in together like that, it would probably be significantly easier to enter from the western bridge directly from the Barrens. You then have a longer, but much less populated path to Thrall. Another idea that came up in guild chat was to sneak in a small group near the throne room and then summon in the rest of the raid. The biggest problem I see with this idea is the time it would take to summon in the entire raid group. If you can find a quiet place to do this it should be easy, but I don't remember such a place near Thrall, so some of the group would have to defend the summoners and you'd probably need a good number of warlocks to be able to summon in the entire raid before too many Hordies figured out what was going on.
As for the faction leaders in the other major cities: Thunderbluff would probably be the easiest to tackle with a normal raid attack. There are very few people there usualy and they are mostly low level anyway. It still might be easier to sneak a couple people in and summon the rest of the group, though. I suspect the group could hide out behind one of the tents near the edge of Elder's Rise and summon with impunity. I think Undercity would be of similar difficulty to TB. A frontal attack down the elevators would probably be suicide, but I can see running in through the sewers working. There are only a couple guards that way and rarely any PCs (except the ones flying past on bats, but there's not a lot they can do from the air). Even easier would be the summoning tactic if you could sneak a warlock and friends into the hallway leading to the throne room. I don't recall there being any guards in that hallway and people only venture there for a couple of quests. You could probably take your time with the summoning and then kill the bosses without much Horde intervention at all.
So, I'd say start with TB and/or Undercity and then take Thrall on last... right after the Lurkers take down Ragnaros ;-)
If the goal is to kill all the opposing faction leaders I think it would be better to start with the easier ones and work up to Thrall. Since the AH is in Orgrimmar, it is usually just as crowded as IF. From my PvP experience (Southshore/Taurn Mill before BG, some WG and watching a lot of WG and a little AV and just dueling in general) superior numbers can overwhelm just about any well-organized group. Organization can certainly make up for some difference in numbers, but after a point there's just nothing more tactics can do for you. So, to run through the middle of Ogrimmar successfully, I think you'd have to round up pretty much everyone in IF for that raid.
So, I suspect your plan could work by simply progressing as far as possible toward Thrall, dieing, running back from Razor Hill, rezzing, and then repeating until you are in the throne room. I doubt most people would have the patience to see this through, though, and the Horde would likely have a decent group organized to aid Thrall by the time we managed to attack him. You would probably have to get everyone to rez in the throne room at the same time and try and take down Thrall before his bodyguards and the other Horde players wiped out the raid group again.
If you want to move the raid group in together like that, it would probably be significantly easier to enter from the western bridge directly from the Barrens. You then have a longer, but much less populated path to Thrall. Another idea that came up in guild chat was to sneak in a small group near the throne room and then summon in the rest of the raid. The biggest problem I see with this idea is the time it would take to summon in the entire raid group. If you can find a quiet place to do this it should be easy, but I don't remember such a place near Thrall, so some of the group would have to defend the summoners and you'd probably need a good number of warlocks to be able to summon in the entire raid before too many Hordies figured out what was going on.
As for the faction leaders in the other major cities: Thunderbluff would probably be the easiest to tackle with a normal raid attack. There are very few people there usualy and they are mostly low level anyway. It still might be easier to sneak a couple people in and summon the rest of the group, though. I suspect the group could hide out behind one of the tents near the edge of Elder's Rise and summon with impunity. I think Undercity would be of similar difficulty to TB. A frontal attack down the elevators would probably be suicide, but I can see running in through the sewers working. There are only a couple guards that way and rarely any PCs (except the ones flying past on bats, but there's not a lot they can do from the air). Even easier would be the summoning tactic if you could sneak a warlock and friends into the hallway leading to the throne room. I don't recall there being any guards in that hallway and people only venture there for a couple of quests. You could probably take your time with the summoning and then kill the bosses without much Horde intervention at all.
So, I'd say start with TB and/or Undercity and then take Thrall on last... right after the Lurkers take down Ragnaros ;-)