How to win in CTF

[Tal]

Well, it seems to me that it's the same thing.  Jerry apologised and said he was joking when he said "All Pally are n00bs", but you continued to jump on him for the statement he stuck by which was paladins attract many n00bs, and are a n00b friendly class.
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I'd like to address this if I may. I've heard many people say that paladins are a n00b friendly class. I contend that any n00b can play any class in the game. Thats right. Playing World of Warcraft as a mage, priest, shaman, warrior, rogue, druid, and warlock is not harder than playing as a paladin. Once you master the basics of how combat works and the beginning skills of a class it is much the same game that everyone plays. World of Warcraft is NOT a hard game to play. Can Paladins afford to make more mistakes than other classes? Perhaps, perhaps not. It may be that most folks are playing paladins as they see them as holy knights. They are drawn to the class because they are "heroes". This doesn't make them n00bs. Wanting to fight along side the warrior in the front lines doesn't make them n00bs either - after all the class description points to them being in the thick of things. Does shielding when they take damage make them n00bs? No as I've said before we can only use the skills that Blizzard gave us. It would be nice, however, to be judged on who I am and the skills I bring to a group than the class I play. THAT is why I take exception to my class being referred to as a n00b class and that I am a n00b by extenstion.

In reality I get just as frustrated with bad paladin players as anyone else, possibly more so than non-paladin players or horde players. I've commented in chat about getting trained by a paladin who ran into the middle of a camp and dying so that the entire village then turned on me because I was fighting on the outskirts. I've also been trained by a failed sap and rogue death. By a mage's polymorph popping and the mage dying. By a priest using psychic scream in a cave. N00bs exist in the game because of how popular the game is not because of a choice at the character selection screen.

Its not much fun to be reviled simply because of what class you chose to play and popular perception of the class. Its not fun to be spit upon while riding through the Barrens just because you're playing a paladin (and I know that the person wasn't spitting because I was Alliance - I made a horde and asked the person). Or to be mocked as not having skill because its supposedly harder to play <insert class name here>. And it sucks all the more to see people you admire or are supposedly aligned in common interest (ie Lurkers) perpetuating these kind of stupid misconceptions. THAT is why folks are getting wound up over this issue.

Closer to the topic at hand, the "bubble run" tatic, especially in AV is actually more then a pain in the butt.&nbsp; It's easy for alliance players to say "well just ignore him", but even a week AoE in the middle of the pack is a substanital amount of damage, and often he takes several hits while bubbled, before people realize to switch targets.&nbsp; Those wasted hits can easily add up to several thosand damage, damage that would be better applied to the mages and locks winding up AoE's behind him.
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What? You're supposed to use strategy and think in PvP? :rolleyes: The real problem with the cheesy bubble and consecrate tactic is that when your damage is based on whether the RNG likes you that you don't have much other option for sowing discontent. After all its not like a paladin can charge in and Intimidating shout, or pyschic scream or mind control an enemy priest (unless you're an engineer) or even sheep/seduce or sap to take a important member out of the fight.

I'm fine with following the flag bearer and healing him/her, with cleansing team mates to remove polymorph and other forms of CC but unfortunately you don't earn many contribution points if you still end up losing the fight. I'd really like to have more options to contribute to the success than I currently have.