06-28-2005, 12:50 AM
Ok, I'll try to be a bit more clear about my intentions and definitions.
First off, I'm starting with the theory that some classes have a higher percentage of poor players then others. Then I'm trying to explain the pattern I see. I'm asking people to contribute their observations and alternate theorys.
I realize the post was long, I just threw a bunch of stuff out there, hoping for a civil discussion to follow. I'm sorry if it didn't come out that way.
I thought my definition of born noob was clear: A person who does not care when their poor play makes things less fun for the people in your party. Almost by definition, if you are reading this site, you do care. For example, I have no problem running instances with shadow speced priests. It's actually fun to see who is quicker on the draw, my earthshock, or his silence. But if he tries running LBRS in shadow form forcing me into the main healer role, he is getting kicked and not asked back.
Please reread the OP, it said nothing about builds. I did say two particular classes (one my main, one I played a fair bit) had a substantial pair of pitfalls: solo and group play being very different, and poor play not leading to immediate, severe, and unambigious failure. Pointing out that pitfall is different then saying everyone who plays that class is a n00b, which, as a glance at my sig would show, would include me. While I don't claim to be the greatest shaman ever, I'm not going to write a massive post only to come to the conclusion that I am a n00b.
First off, I'm starting with the theory that some classes have a higher percentage of poor players then others. Then I'm trying to explain the pattern I see. I'm asking people to contribute their observations and alternate theorys.
I realize the post was long, I just threw a bunch of stuff out there, hoping for a civil discussion to follow. I'm sorry if it didn't come out that way.
I thought my definition of born noob was clear: A person who does not care when their poor play makes things less fun for the people in your party. Almost by definition, if you are reading this site, you do care. For example, I have no problem running instances with shadow speced priests. It's actually fun to see who is quicker on the draw, my earthshock, or his silence. But if he tries running LBRS in shadow form forcing me into the main healer role, he is getting kicked and not asked back.
Munkay,Jun 27 2005, 02:29 PM Wrote:trying to generalize everyone who plays a popular build as a "noob" isn't going to make any friends here. So far you've demonstrated a failure to understand your audience,
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Please reread the OP, it said nothing about builds. I did say two particular classes (one my main, one I played a fair bit) had a substantial pair of pitfalls: solo and group play being very different, and poor play not leading to immediate, severe, and unambigious failure. Pointing out that pitfall is different then saying everyone who plays that class is a n00b, which, as a glance at my sig would show, would include me. While I don't claim to be the greatest shaman ever, I'm not going to write a massive post only to come to the conclusion that I am a n00b.