06-17-2005, 06:52 AM
"Considering how few people answered his original question, as in explaining the reasoning for the phenomenon he observed, I daresay that either a collection of folks came out from under bridges, or did not understand the question in the first place."
Perhaps, rather than conjuring some nebulous Western Feminists from the void, Ashock (or yourself, if you'd care to) should conjure some representative examples of this occuring. I've heard arguments that the abuses that go on are insufficient reason to launch a war halfway across the world. I've heard arguments defending the *general* notion of Muslim society, qualified by the need to improve women's rights (and rights generally). But I've yet to hear a Western Feminist defend the gang-raping bits of Islamic culture.
But if they're out there, maybe bringing them to light might help. Until then, I can only assume that we're dealing with stereotypes and not actual Western Feminists.
It's been put fairly clearly earlier in the thread. If you ask a question which is made impossible (or just unbelievably stupid) by your assumptions, I wouldn't be so surprised if you get people attacking your assumptions rather than answering your questions.
Jester
Perhaps, rather than conjuring some nebulous Western Feminists from the void, Ashock (or yourself, if you'd care to) should conjure some representative examples of this occuring. I've heard arguments that the abuses that go on are insufficient reason to launch a war halfway across the world. I've heard arguments defending the *general* notion of Muslim society, qualified by the need to improve women's rights (and rights generally). But I've yet to hear a Western Feminist defend the gang-raping bits of Islamic culture.
But if they're out there, maybe bringing them to light might help. Until then, I can only assume that we're dealing with stereotypes and not actual Western Feminists.
It's been put fairly clearly earlier in the thread. If you ask a question which is made impossible (or just unbelievably stupid) by your assumptions, I wouldn't be so surprised if you get people attacking your assumptions rather than answering your questions.
Jester