The New Ragnaros
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MongoJerry,Jun 13 2005, 01:56 AM Wrote:It sounds like, however, that you do have an idea of how to handle the main tank knockback attack (which is different from the grenade attack).  If you would care to enlighten us on that and perhaps give some suggestions on where tanking and melee dps players should be placed, I would appreciate that.  If, however, all you can do is insult me and the group I raid with, I ask that you refrain from doing that.
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First off, I didn't insult the group you raided with. It's an offhand comment. And yes, posting something with 'I find this funny' is usually a way of saying 'I agree with it'. I don't agree with people falling into the 'the developers are #$%&ing us again' mentality. The encounter was bugged all to Hell and it let people outdps it to avoid the stupid splashes. Beating a boss when it was bugged and we all knew it was bugged is, well ... Hell we all did it.

Second, they fixed bugs. Bug fixing is not buffing. The splashes didn't even occur period in stage 1 of the fight before they fixed it after you wiped once. You admitted before that you were letting him clear his splashes with a wipe. That was a bug. They fixed it. They were also enviromental damage, meaning it was a random 1500 strike that you could not resist, just like lava, which make the whole thing random and stupid. That is a nerf. The splashes before were absolutely mind-numbingly brutal. You HAD to overdps him to stay out of post-Sons, because if you didn't the splashes would wipe your dps to a man and then kill your healers in very short order.

As to Wrath of Ragnaros, which is the PBAoE that knocks back the MT, they fixed that as well. This is not exactly buffing : This is how Ragnaros was supposed to be.before the patch. Trust me, he did have that ability and it was active, it was just under-ranged for some odd reason. Ask your MT or whoever first attempted the encounter, they probably knew to stay at max range from Ragnaros at all times. It went from 18 yards to 25 yards in the patch. You were outdistancing it before and can likely avoid it now. I don't know how. I know that you were able to before though. I believe it's measured from the centre of ragnaros, since 25 yards from his body would be pretty damn big.

Third, from what I know of the fight, I don't believe you can't position to avoid lava splashes (I believe they're just random damage) and I am told that while rogues can be still useful, they have to be a lot smarter than they were before. Beyond that I haven't actually done the encounter yet, but I'm looking forward to Ragnaros being interesting for all of the fight, instead of the awfulness that was 'dps dps dps OH GOD SONS dps splash kills eight rogues dps loot loot loot' before.

And I am in a pretty secretive guild so I can't go read the official strats (which I haven't yet) and tell you them. Sorry. This is just from what I know of the fight before doing it.
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The New Ragnaros - by MongoJerry - 06-12-2005, 05:26 AM
The New Ragnaros - by Quark - 06-12-2005, 02:58 PM
The New Ragnaros - by MongoJerry - 06-12-2005, 08:03 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Taeme - 06-12-2005, 10:14 PM
The New Ragnaros - by MongoJerry - 06-12-2005, 11:01 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Taeme - 06-12-2005, 11:19 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Quark - 06-13-2005, 01:47 AM
The New Ragnaros - by MongoJerry - 06-13-2005, 05:56 AM
The New Ragnaros - by Rinnhart - 06-13-2005, 06:55 AM
The New Ragnaros - by Taeme - 06-13-2005, 10:55 AM
The New Ragnaros - by savaughn - 06-13-2005, 01:12 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Phoenix - 06-13-2005, 01:22 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Quark - 06-13-2005, 03:45 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Zoid - 06-13-2005, 08:04 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Mavfin - 06-14-2005, 03:31 PM
The New Ragnaros - by Taeme - 06-15-2005, 01:18 AM

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