06-11-2005, 11:02 PM
Jester,Jun 11 2005, 11:23 AM Wrote:This was true of the United States until... when? The second world war? The fifties? In god we trust? Maybe it isn't even true now. [right][snapback]80233[/snapback][/right]
How about 1920, or so, after Women's Suffrage? :whistling: That is close enough, since we are talking centuries, and a slow evolution of a culture, or more correctly, a subset of a culture.
An argument has been made that Islam has yet to experience its own Reformation. Others will argue that its shape and form did not grow in complete parallels to Christianity, and that looking for such a reformation is a vain hope.
Change comes in non linear burps and bumps. Some from internal forces, some from external forces. The Islamic world changes, as does the Christian world, to put this in the form of your "five centuries ago" observer, but at different rates and in different directions. The reactionaries in both camps object, which puts Jerry Fallwella and Osama Bin Laden having tea and together bemoaning the various Whores of Babylon who infest the world's airwaves in a valid context. :D
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete