05-18-2005, 02:13 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2005, 02:35 AM by Archon_Wing.)
Abramelin,May 17 2005, 05:36 PM Wrote:Oh I get it.
Philosophy is futile and politics and economy rule over it.
Without morality and ethics (which are derived from philosophy),you wouldn't be free if you were black in the America of proslavery,you wouldn't have have the same rights as men if you were a woman before 20th century,etc..philosophy helped to improve your rights and economy+politics were influenced by it.
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That's probaly one of the grossest oversimplfication of anything I've seen. :)
Politics and economics probaly had just as much, if not much more, to do with the slavery issue than morals did. The Civil War was much about State's rights and the seperation of the union, not some glorious crusade to emancipate the slaves (although that was certainly a crucial goal). How about considering that the South's economy had grown rather dependent on slavery that they really didn't want to end the system? Or the relief that poor whites in the South got knowing that they were not the lowest class of citizen? The way you limit this discussion answers none of these issues but putting them away is as effective as sweeping broken glass underneath the carpet.
I don't think people allowed for women suffrage simply just because it was the right thing to do. Think about power struggles. (Particiapating in the antislavery movement and not getting anything has its effects) Think about voting means. Think about how we define the genders and its relationship with each other.
Neglecting the social aspects of an issue is like pissing in the wind. Sure it might be relaxing for a moment, but it doesn't go far.
You can accuse humanity of being arrogant in thinking he/she can define the world in human terms. I accuse you of arrogance in thinking you can define the world beyond human terms.
With great power comes the great need to blame other people.
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