05-18-2005, 12:19 AM
Ghostiger,May 17 2005, 11:40 PM Wrote:Wrong.Nobody can prove anything about that premise"all men are born free" because it is not about logic,it is about ethics and morality.
"For instance,you make a chair.The chair becomes yours because you made it. You don't have a moral right to appropriate something that was not made by you in the first place and not given to you."
By the same reason the we cant prove that the Bible or Locke was correct you cant prove that statement is correct.
In fact no one can prove anything except with in the boundries of unproven axiom.
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My premise is "you have the moral right to only own what you create and what you were given".Thus you don't have the moral right to own what you didn't create and what you were not given.
Notice 'moral right'.
It is not about logic, it is about morality & ethics.
That 'men are born free' is not an axiom . It is a moral fact.But you can't prove it with logic because logic has nothing to do with it.
You can deny though and claim that some are born slaves and other ones are born free.You can't prove it either with logic.