This world is not ours

[Occhidiangela]

Oh. I agree.  But, I think our friend Abramelin was challenging us to come up with more than the correct answer, but rather to explain how that answer was derived.   It is plain to us that in general we are better off within a society founded on justice and equality, rather than the primal whims of grunting cave dwellers.  Part and parcel of which is an understanding of property and ownership.  Somewhere between pure communism (ownership is forbiden) and anarchy(grab what you can) rests our system where people are assured that their labor bears fruit.   But, his poser is akin to asking one to explain how civilization came about, from tribalism to Aristotle, etc.   I don't even want to touch the "existence of countries is some kind of hypocrisy" as it would again require an explanation of the fractional reality of socio-political systems, and their disparate evolutions.
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While a philosopher expends considerable energy on "why is what is how it is" and 'what should be" and "what is the perfection of what should be" whatever framework he derives must then be put into practice. So, while the power of an idea is quite possibly the most potent force on the planet earth, it is also the most susceptible to error (since humans are prone to error, in understanding, action and judgment) which makes the idea the most dangerous thing on the planet earth.

As you note, philosophy is limited in scope to that which can be implemented. The ideal state can, due to friction and diversity of aims, never be attained. This requires a subjective establishment of a "good enough" criterion which, being subjective, will always invite discussion and debate . . . and debate is a lot of what Philosophy is about. :lol:

Communism is one such idea, in terms of dangerous, but the one that scares me more is the "silver bullet" idea that both drove nuclear weapons development and deployment, and the current quest for "a tactical nuke that isn't too poisonous to the environment since it will explode mostly underground blah blah blah."

I posted a thread a while back on that. It strikes me as appropos to link the two conversations, since it is in the journey to implement an idea that Man's greatest successes, and greatest disasters, are revealed.

"And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart, I drink therefore I am."

One risk inherent in the imperfection of the human mind is the risk that

"I think, come up with a dangerous idea, implement it, and none of us are, at all. By thinking, I plant the seeds to the end of all thought."

I'll have a drink, I think, while I still am. :D

Occhi