05-03-2005, 05:37 PM
Ravage,May 3 2005, 11:38 AM Wrote:Ok, so, several frends and I have been discussing, trying to determine how one possibly could exploite using a low level character in an instance. And we are failing miserably. Anything a group can do in an instance, can be done outside of an instance. All the drops are level restricted, even the BOP ones; all the quests require a minimum level to aquire already; exp and coins are shared the same inside the instance and outside. I just dont get it. Don't misunderstand me, I dont see a point in bringing a lowbie into an instance, or grouping with a lowbie except to help them get their stuff done.
It would almost make more sense to put a max level restriction, so that, for example, level 30+ cant walk newbies through Ragefire Cavern or Deadmines "bypassing content" by killing all the mobs the lowbie needs for the quests.
Am I missing something here?
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I don't think the quest rewards for instances are level limited. I think the Chausses of Westfall, for example, have no level req on them. The only limit is the level you can get the quest at, which is probably lower than can really contribute in the instance.
The patch talked about below won't affect this, but I, for one, am sick of seeing lvl 30 warriors wearing the Whirlwind weapons. I mean, come on. To get the stuff to summon Cyclonian, you need to kill a whole bunch of 33/34 trolls, a whole bunch of 38/39 air/fire/water elementals, get some liferoot (no big deal on that one), and then kill a 40 elite air elemental. A lvl 30 can do all that? Doh. A lvl 30 can't even *contribute* to the group that got him all this stuff, as he couldn't even *hit* Cyclonian, let alone damage him. To me, that's an exploit.
To move to a slightly diff subject, when asked to help lower guildies (or random lowbies) with a quest, I usually apply what I call the '+3 rule'. I usually won't help a lower level do a quest more than 3 levels over them. If a lvl 34 asks me to help them kill Fozruk (a lvl 42 elite giant), I will usually decline. They're just leeching from me for that quest, as they can barely HIT him, let alone hurt him. Oh, I don't stick to '+3' exactly, and allow some leeway for normal group stuff, but, I draw the line at oh, about +5 max. Anything more than that, they're just wanting me to do it for them so they can have <insert reward here> w/o actually contributing to it. Our guild 60s do about the same. We have had people leave the guild over it, after we wouldn't do quests +7 and higher for them. The leadership of the guild got together and agreed that allowing people to leech like that was a bad precedent to start.
Comments, anyone?
--Mav