Druids--the other cow meat.
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Brista,Apr 29 2005, 10:06 AM Wrote:A couple of thoughts

If you plan to do Restoration first (probably a good idea, getting you Nature's Swiftness and Innervate as soon as possible) then you only get Improved Starburst when Starburst is really rather out-moded as a damage form. You will probably Starburst, Moonfire, Faerie Fire to pull, then go bear, changing when you need a heal. A small bit of extra damage on something you only use once per pull isn't that great. I'd suggest the balance talent for uninterruptible entangling roots instead, especially if you pvp.

The Improved Starfire talent adds a stun chance. This would give you time for a couple more Wraths on the front end. It's still not my favorite talent, but it does have some value, especially for a more caster-oriented style.

Quote:I very rarely use Rejuvenation. The other heals are more efficient and are so good that standing there and using a big heal will help you more than running and using Rejuvenate most of the time. If you would die before the big heal finished casting Rejuvenate wouldn't have saved you either. You could put those points into Subtlety instead although going cat and spamming Cower is a talent-free alternative, and very often going Bear will work - you can just tank the aggro. Still you will want subtlety for end game raids if you go that far - if the raid wipes because the main tank lost aggro to you saving 5 points on Subtlety it would be unfortunate.

I must disagree most strongly. I regard Rejuvenation as one of the staples of the Druid's arsenal. It's less mana efficient, but it's an instant HoT that can go a long way to managing the time-to-die rate on your group or yourself. It's quite useful for early fight heals when you don't want to draw aggro, but you do want to keep a decent life buffer. And sometimes it _does_ buy you the time for a bigger heal.

When healing for groups, I see Rejuvenation as the drogue chute you pop as your tank's hit points skydive. It reduces the damage rate so you can get a more efficient HT off safely.

Rejuvenation is also excellent if you're doing the caster melee style.

Quote:Glad to see you turned down Swiftshifting, I think the recent fix has turned it from a talent that looks and is useless to a talent that looks good but is useless. I find if I change shape I almost never want to change very quickly and if I do (say a cat pull, followed by stomp, regrowth, bear) I'll have tons of mana left when I go to the final shape which defeats the point of mana economy from the talent.
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My personal style happens to use cat form a lot more than bear form, and I get a fair amount of utility out of Swiftshifting. I'd not go so far as calling it mandatory, but not useless. This may have something to do with me being paranoid about my mana levels, always wanting as big a buffer as possible. :)

I find myself shifting out and back into forms quickly quite a lot. It may be due to cat-form taking more damage than bear and needing a heal more often. Even in bear form, it's been handy in extended fights when soloing elites; my feral form gear just doesn't have the spirit for a massive mana regen rate.
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Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bob the Beholder - 04-20-2005, 04:04 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Elegantly - 04-20-2005, 09:05 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-20-2005, 09:31 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-20-2005, 09:33 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bob the Beholder - 04-20-2005, 04:32 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Brista - 04-20-2005, 04:53 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Trien - 04-21-2005, 12:47 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-21-2005, 03:35 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Watto44 - 04-21-2005, 05:25 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-21-2005, 08:57 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Watto44 - 04-21-2005, 02:29 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-21-2005, 05:37 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-21-2005, 09:15 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-21-2005, 09:24 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-21-2005, 11:18 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-21-2005, 11:45 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-22-2005, 12:16 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by nobbie - 04-22-2005, 11:15 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by russ - 04-22-2005, 01:51 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by LochnarITB - 04-26-2005, 11:29 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bob the Beholder - 04-27-2005, 12:20 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by playingtokrush - 04-27-2005, 03:58 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Watto44 - 04-27-2005, 11:31 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bun-Bun - 04-27-2005, 02:48 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by LochnarITB - 04-27-2005, 10:05 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Brista - 04-29-2005, 03:06 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Brista - 04-29-2005, 03:07 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bun-Bun - 04-29-2005, 04:26 PM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by LochnarITB - 04-30-2005, 12:46 AM
Druids--the other cow meat. - by Bob the Beholder - 04-30-2005, 01:32 AM
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