04-25-2005, 05:58 PM
Thanks for all the responses, this gives me some things to think about.
I'm more concerned with 5 man groups right now, as that's where my play is happening. Its fairly uncommon for my groups to have a real offtank; I'm level 56, so I haven't done anything past the sunken temple. We have a hard time finding tanks, so usually if we can get one we just go with that. I did the ST twice, with a pally as the tank each time.
The first time we didn't finish eranikus (it was the first time for all of us, and after 2 wipes several people had to go). The second time we did Hakkar and Eranikus without too much difficulty. We had Pally + Hunter + Rogue + Priest + Priest, which is kinda a weird group. I (rogue) ended up tanking Eranikus for about 45 seconds (evasion + prep + evasion) after he sleeped the pally, and we were able to win. I doubt I could have tanked that long without two priests healing me.
We used the hunter's pet as an offtank for the whole instance. He can definately hold agro against an elite for the whole battle, but we usually just let him hold off of them off until we finish the rest. Most of our fights went like this:
sap/shackle one elite
pally fights another
pet hold agro against one elite, doing no damage but keeping him off to himself
Hunter + me kill everything else. ST has a lot of non-elites, so I would usually target them and take them out before we turned to the elites. The pet could last for about 4 minutes before getting into trouble, so that was a long time to hold one elite out. The pally could last all day on his target, but he couldn't effectively hold agro against multiple targets.
Anyway, that's a lot of rambling, but my question is this: should we use the pet as an offtank, and fight the guy that he is tanking? Or should we continue to use him as crowd control? Or will he be useless in strat/scholo/DM/etc.?
I'm more concerned with 5 man groups right now, as that's where my play is happening. Its fairly uncommon for my groups to have a real offtank; I'm level 56, so I haven't done anything past the sunken temple. We have a hard time finding tanks, so usually if we can get one we just go with that. I did the ST twice, with a pally as the tank each time.
The first time we didn't finish eranikus (it was the first time for all of us, and after 2 wipes several people had to go). The second time we did Hakkar and Eranikus without too much difficulty. We had Pally + Hunter + Rogue + Priest + Priest, which is kinda a weird group. I (rogue) ended up tanking Eranikus for about 45 seconds (evasion + prep + evasion) after he sleeped the pally, and we were able to win. I doubt I could have tanked that long without two priests healing me.
We used the hunter's pet as an offtank for the whole instance. He can definately hold agro against an elite for the whole battle, but we usually just let him hold off of them off until we finish the rest. Most of our fights went like this:
sap/shackle one elite
pally fights another
pet hold agro against one elite, doing no damage but keeping him off to himself
Hunter + me kill everything else. ST has a lot of non-elites, so I would usually target them and take them out before we turned to the elites. The pet could last for about 4 minutes before getting into trouble, so that was a long time to hold one elite out. The pally could last all day on his target, but he couldn't effectively hold agro against multiple targets.
Anyway, that's a lot of rambling, but my question is this: should we use the pet as an offtank, and fight the guy that he is tanking? Or should we continue to use him as crowd control? Or will he be useless in strat/scholo/DM/etc.?