04-21-2005, 09:10 PM
Malakar,Apr 21 2005, 03:53 PM Wrote:I don't understand why every rogue expects Vanish to work every single time. Hunters do not get such luxury, or even close, with Feign Death. Yet I don't see them complaining (maybe because I don't visit the official forums). I never had a problem with it myself - nor did I see any problem when grouping with my rogues friends. Sure, it didn't work once or twice, but I can deal with that. Now in the latest patch they've increased the stealth bonus of Vanish as well. Personally, I hope it doesn't work every time, unless maybe, you have maxed Master of Deception.It's not supposed to work everytime and most rogues know that. What the issue is is that Vanish rank 1 works really well, but vanish rank 2 breaks for no reason (supposedly. Eth does not have rank 2 yet because she isn't big enough yet and I'm a bit leery of upgrading when vanish 1 still works so well. Hopefully by the time she's ready for it, vanish 2 won't be such a source of complaint). You can be completely alone, nothing around and try to vanish and the vanish fails. Well, your combat log will say that you gained vanish and then lost vanish immediately. That is what the rogues are complaining about and not "we can't always escape every situation". They have increased the stealth bonus to try and prevent the premature vanish breaks. I do still expect it to not work reliably when I am surrounded by a circle of angry things, but if there's not much around, it damned well better work.
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BTW, stealth occasionally just drops off a rogue for no reason either. Nothing around me, no DoTs on me, I'm not in combat nor just got out of combat. Once GG was fighting something and I was stealthed. The critter died and I popped out of stealth. Nothing touched me, nothing saw me, nothing happened except the bugger died and I got popped out of stealth. It happened a few more times that day, but I haven't had it happen recently. There are bugs with stealth. There are also a lot of whiners who happen to play rogues because they want an "I win!" button and think rogue is the way to go so of course they incessantly whine when they don't get an automatic "I win". Learn which rogues are which and ignore the babies. ;)
Intolerant monkey.