04-21-2005, 08:53 PM
Quark,Apr 20 2005, 02:52 PM Wrote:With the advent of this patch, I had three complaints that were on my "priority" list for Rogues. Vanish sucking, Raid instance roles (I want to use my Detect/Disarm trap skills!), and Blizzard simply acknowledging we exist. They've asked for our feedback, are considering the high-end content issues, and are adament that Vanish actually works. So now I'm down to one major issue: Vanish sucks and they refuse to believe it.I don't understand why every rogue expects Vanish to work every single time. Hunters do not get such luxury, or even close, with Feign Death. Yet I don't see them complaining (maybe because I don't visit the official forums). I never had a problem with it myself - nor did I see any problem when grouping with my rogues friends. Sure, it didn't work once or twice, but I can deal with that. Now in the latest patch they've increased the stealth bonus of Vanish as well. Personally, I hope it doesn't work every time, unless maybe, you have maxed Master of Deception.
Quote:As for the solo-godness of Rogues, I don't see it. 1v1 they're great, and they usually have good downtime. But the good downtime relies on bandages, meaning I find myself deliberately soloing Humanoids instead of anything else. My Mage can get out of more sticky situations with adds. About any other class has an easier time taking an elite alone. Rogues are easy to play solo, but other classes are better at it when played well. So just as classes exaggerate their problems, you're exaggerating their benefits.The thing is, not only is their downtime low, they kill mobs fast too. And yes the bandages are a bit limiting, but at least the option is there. Besides you could always buy the cloth. As far as mages getting away easier - I've always found Vanish to be much more reliable than any mage escape skill, even if it doesn't work 100%. And while rogues might not be the best at soloing elites, that is not exactly required to grind fast or do solo quests.
Personally, my only real beef with rogues so far is that Remorseless Attacks only lasts 20 seconds for no good reason. Perhaps that will change once I get to MC.
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