Milk

[kandrathe]

Come on, let's keep the discussion a bit for grown-ups he! Or were you joking.

It is true though that the whole animal industry is not one of the nicest examples of human achievement.
I try only to drink biological milk, which is from cows that spend most of their time outside.
But apart from milk, if you want to do something good for animal treatment, environment 3rd world poverty, try eating 50 % less meat....if everybody would do so the world would look a lot better.
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Bah. The key word is here is industry.

Like Treesh, I come from the farming region. My enterprise growing up was raising about 50 grade AAA beef cattle per year for slaughter. Some factory feed lot operations are much less personalized, but generally, the cattle hang out, they get fed and excercised, and then when they are big enough they get killed. I don't like what has happened in the industrialization of farming, but more in what it does to "family farms" and the rural way of life.

I had one neighbor, also a "family farmer" who raised about 10,000 hogs per year. They were never mistreated, lived outdoors, and had plenty of space. But, they could never have the kind of human interaction that I did with my mere 50. He also made a boatload more money than I did.

First off, the traditional dairy farmers I knew babied their milking cows. They named each one and tended to them with love. Dairy cows are in great discomfort if they are not milked on time, and might suffer from mastitis.

I eat very little beef, but I'll try eating 50% less beef if the 3rd world agrees to have 50% less children. The poverty problem has more to do with population growth exceeding per capita GNP growth in the developing world.