Def Spec -- Should I, Really?

[Occhidiangela]

We could all be really careful and only communicate like were writing a text book. But that lame.

For some reason, I don't see you writing a textbook anytime soon. Me neither. Given the number of text books I have been subjected to over the years, posting in the textbook style (besides being over priced) might induce flames for its own reasons.

There is a very real difference in how the game is played on the 2 server types, and its reasonable that people can have some what low opinions of the server type they dont like. 

It is "reasonable?" to have a low opinion of others? I will disagree with you there. I think it is reasonable for folks to have varying opinions, but I don't hold it as reasonable that one form and hold an opinion on another based on their server choices. That sort of stereotyping is anything but reasonable, and the hallmark of a small mind.

Let's look at my opinions on PK's in DII. I hold a very low opinion of a lot of D II PK's who exploit cheats. I have a different opinion of the HC PK's who at least don't use hacks and cheats, and yet another opinion of the ones who call out a challenge before going hostile, and even another for those who respond in a civil manner when I politely decline a challenge. If found that most often, when I offered a "no thanks, not interested in a duel" I did NOT get the lamerspeak, trash talk from some of the latter forms of PK.

There is a difference between insults and personal attack and and a good natured barb.

Aye, indeed there is! Bolty's reference to some of us as Variant Scum is just such a good natured barb (flash to Mr Hyde) SO I"LL KILL HIM NEXT TIME HE SAYS THAT (Flash to Dr Occhi) that we bandy about on the forums. :whistling:

Also the PvE servers are universally refered to as "Carebear" on the PvP servers(or at least on mine). I dont see the term as beiing any worse than when PvP is refered to "Ganking". I use both words.
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Oh, I see, the guys at the country club sit in the men's grill and refer to the folks maintaining the fairways as spearchuckers, while the groundskeepers refer to the members as crackers at the caddyshack. Reasonable, by the standard you offer there. And if it slips out at the PTA meeting? Is it reasonable then? Bad example, unlikely in the same PTA.

How about this.

The guy baseball players shoot the breeze in the locker room and refer to the girls on the softball team as lezbo's. Also reasonable by your proffered standard. And when it "slips out" at the bus stop? Is it reasonable then? My guess would be that you don't approach name calling IRL from such a perspective.

I think the core objection being raised is that the Lounge is not one of the game servers but is more like neutral ground. It would be better to leave locker room talk on both the PvE and PvP servers, and treat this more like the bus stop. Or the PTA meeting.

EDIT: I apologize to one and all for possibly suggesting we treat this board like a PTA meeting. That would contravene the Geneva Conventions, or in some way be a heinous rupture of good conduct. What was I thinking? :blink:

Full disclosure: I've been guilty as hell of referring to bnet cheaters by the blanket insult of lamer, and worse. Name calling comes so easily . . .

Rather than view some of the objections as "oversensitive" perhaps we can recognize it as OK for a fellow Lurker to throw a flag now and again. I've gotten a few minutes in the penalty box, and a red face, for that foul before . . .

Occhi

Afterbirth, sorry, afterthought: You might say the Lounge is a PvE, versus PvP, forum as a reference to style, not WoW server preference. B) That is, when certain crotchety sorts aren't tossing out flames . . .