02-25-2005, 05:18 AM
Occhidiangela,Feb 24 2005, 06:35 PM Wrote:Point 2: I find the assertion of a bug hard to believe. FWIW. I ran Hell Andy twice last night for the heck of it. She dropped utter garbage. No Green, gold, one yellow, and a couple of minor blue in two deaths. I had on around 140% MF, par for the course. What bug? The first one was for the initial quest, the second to see what the heck you folks are on about with a "bug."
If you had checked, you would have found that all those blue items had double durability, indicative of a failed set item. While it may not have looked like it, the drops were thus all rares or better. The bug does exist, whether you believe it or not.
Quote:When I finish the Act I Quest 6, I always talk to Warriv to go east, that I can remember. That is how the game is designed to be played. You talk to Warriv to open the cinematic and go East. See the Exclamation mark over his head. If you think that is cheating, amaze me. The game is supposed to progress from you killing Andy to speaking to the townsfolk, and Warriv's convo is what sends you East. I have been playing this game since release. This is the first I have ever heard that playing the game in the designed story sequence is a bug.
Er...
What you're saying doesn't make any sense. Bugs are, by their very nature, not supposed to happen, but happen anyways. So if you're doing everything right but the wrong thing happens, then that is a bug.
Some bugs are hard to circumvent and easy to exploit. Other bugs are easy to circumvent and hard to exploit. This doesn't change whether they're a bug or not.
It's obvious that, since there is a quest drop and a non-quest drop set up for Andariel, she should drop the non-quest one if you aren't killing her for quest credit. This isn't happening. Clearly, then, this is a bug.
It's also irrelevant that you've been playing since release, since the Andariel bug was introduced in 1.10.
Quote:3. How is that a bug? If you join a game where a certain act boss has not been killed, and you have not recieved that quest yet, and you kill the boss, I would nope that the boss will drop as if it were a quest drop: it is. That is how the game is supposed to work: You don't have quest, you complete quest, you get quest credit. Bug: game crash when Lord De Seis uses his thief skill. Bug: Leap Attack causes vertical leap. Bug: Charge bug. Bug: Invulnerable leapers. Bug: 100% Crit if one point picked in Mastery. Bug. 100% crit with one point in Claw mastery. Bug.
You're misunderstanding the bug/exploit.
If you join a game where the act boss has not been killed, but the person who started the game already completed that quest, then the quest cannot be completed, but the boss can still be killed. And if you don't have the quest yet, you get the quest drop without getting quest credit. That means it's repeatable.
Example:
Player A has already previously killed Diablo. Player A makes a game to quest in act 5. Player B has not yet killed Diablo and joins the game. Player B kills Diablo. Since player B didn't have the quest yet, he gets a quest drop. However, since the player who made the game (Player A) had previous killed Diablo, the quest is unavailable, so Player B gets no credit for it. That means that if Player B joins another such game, he'll get another quest drop.
The quest drop is supposed to be a one-time thing that you get when you complete the quest. However, the game doesn't check if the player just received quest credit; it checks if the player previously didn't have quest credit. Based on the idea behind the quest drops, this behaviour is a bug.