The Dilemma of Rogues

[savaughn]

Certainly there are some classes with builds that tend towards heavy investment in a single tree while ignoring the third branch altogether. There's 3 tree builds for EVERY class, however. Rogues tend to do a 30/13/8 build, but there are a large number of other options available. Regardless, you're arguing at cross purposes. Your original statement was basically the "Dagger rogue", i.e. a rogue focusing in on maximizing melee combat with a dagger, should be able to pick up the Improved Sap ability. In the current tree you can't.

Your argument is that Improved Sap is very nice (which it is). Your implication is that because it is nice, you should be able to get it regardless of what else you spend your talents on. I disagree. The best abilities in the game for ALL classes have been placed in such a way so that you have to decide which way to go. If a mage wants Presence of Mind, he can't get Combustion. If a warrior wants Flurry he can't get Mortal Strikes (and similarly can't get Bloodthirst and Sweeping Strikes in the same build). Rogues can't get all of the nastiest dagger abilities and still pick up Improved Sap. Make your choice, play your choice, and respec if you want to see how the other half lives.

A dagger rogue doesn't really have that option.

He does. But if you don't want to just be a dagger rogue - if you want to be able to be a semi-Dagger rogue with better CC, you'll have to make a trade off. To get the additional flexibility, he has to lose some offense. That's the way it should be.