01-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Saying taunt requires no rage is misleading. Taunt almost always needs to be followed up by an additional special attack (which costs rage) to be assured of control over the specific mob. Then there is the issue of taunt being resisted - if you're counting on it for a smooth aggro tradeoff at the beginning of each pull, you will have some pulls that don't go as planned (otherwise I'd always do single pulls with all casters unloading their best instant nukes and just taunt it off when it reaches the group).
Challenging shout is for special cases and emergencies. The cooldown is too long to really consider it a regular "in the golfbag" option for regular pulls. Also resisted at times when you wish you could count on it.
The ability to charge without charging at the mobs' initial positions (i.e. begging for an add) does offset some of the potential rage lost from initial beating. I use bloodrage every time it's up regardless of who is pulling - with the 2 talent points the health cost is negligible with or without a healer.
The only other factor here is the addition of complexity to the pull process and another step where things can go wrong. Feign death can be resisted. Disengage, I believe only reduces aggro on a single target (correct me if I'm mistaken). There's probably better and worse timing for the Warrior to jump in in terms of best re-taking the aggro. In contrast, a warrior pull is simplicity, there's no relay handoff to coordinate and the aggro is where it should be from step one. Pop a bloodrage and take a little beating and you're assured the aggro necessary to manage the situation.
It ultimately boils down to trust. If a hunter assures me they will do their best to lose aggro each pull, either through feign death or pet pulls with cower, I'll do my best to work with them. If I'm with a non-communicative hunter in a pick-up group, I am always going to politely ask to pull just to make my life simpler.
Challenging shout is for special cases and emergencies. The cooldown is too long to really consider it a regular "in the golfbag" option for regular pulls. Also resisted at times when you wish you could count on it.
The ability to charge without charging at the mobs' initial positions (i.e. begging for an add) does offset some of the potential rage lost from initial beating. I use bloodrage every time it's up regardless of who is pulling - with the 2 talent points the health cost is negligible with or without a healer.
The only other factor here is the addition of complexity to the pull process and another step where things can go wrong. Feign death can be resisted. Disengage, I believe only reduces aggro on a single target (correct me if I'm mistaken). There's probably better and worse timing for the Warrior to jump in in terms of best re-taking the aggro. In contrast, a warrior pull is simplicity, there's no relay handoff to coordinate and the aggro is where it should be from step one. Pop a bloodrage and take a little beating and you're assured the aggro necessary to manage the situation.
It ultimately boils down to trust. If a hunter assures me they will do their best to lose aggro each pull, either through feign death or pet pulls with cower, I'll do my best to work with them. If I'm with a non-communicative hunter in a pick-up group, I am always going to politely ask to pull just to make my life simpler.