01-07-2005, 06:46 PM
Interesting read, and a good starter guide for hunters who want to pull (as opposed to those who insist on starting with Aimed shot and concussive). It would have been nice to see some discussion of pet pulling (posess pet, nip one mob, return to tank's side, and unposess/go passive - apparently works like a charm).
However, it doesn't address the issue of warrior rage. Warrior's don't just want the initial aggro because of the slight aggro advantage it gives throughout combat (supposedly), they also want to be beat upon by every non-sapped / non-sheeped melee monster in the pull initially so they can build rage to lock in as many of the monsters as possible. Each initial hit that is taken by a hunter, or a hunter's pet, or anyone besides a primary tank warrior, is rage that the warrior has lost the opportunity to use. If you had the choice between two pullers, but with one you consistently had half as much mana to use during combat, which puller would you prefer?
In the example given in that article, the rage issue doesn't particularly come into play. It's a 2 pull with a potential mess up, and 2 pulls are not generally not be a problem for a warrior to hold aggro on. As the game progresses, the minimum number of mobs per pull often is much higher than 2, typically 4-6. Such pulls require much more skill (and rage) to manage well.
I'm more than happy to let Hunters pull if they are considerate about aggro management and the rest of the group is OK with it, but as far as I'm concerned I'm often "losing mana" by going along with it.
One more thing - in the diagram example, a proximity pull is most likely to assure the 2 pull rather than the 5 pull, IMO. Too bad very few groups have the patience or understanding to let a warrior do a proper proximity pull (random groups often crowd too close regardless of instructions).
However, it doesn't address the issue of warrior rage. Warrior's don't just want the initial aggro because of the slight aggro advantage it gives throughout combat (supposedly), they also want to be beat upon by every non-sapped / non-sheeped melee monster in the pull initially so they can build rage to lock in as many of the monsters as possible. Each initial hit that is taken by a hunter, or a hunter's pet, or anyone besides a primary tank warrior, is rage that the warrior has lost the opportunity to use. If you had the choice between two pullers, but with one you consistently had half as much mana to use during combat, which puller would you prefer?
In the example given in that article, the rage issue doesn't particularly come into play. It's a 2 pull with a potential mess up, and 2 pulls are not generally not be a problem for a warrior to hold aggro on. As the game progresses, the minimum number of mobs per pull often is much higher than 2, typically 4-6. Such pulls require much more skill (and rage) to manage well.
I'm more than happy to let Hunters pull if they are considerate about aggro management and the rest of the group is OK with it, but as far as I'm concerned I'm often "losing mana" by going along with it.
One more thing - in the diagram example, a proximity pull is most likely to assure the 2 pull rather than the 5 pull, IMO. Too bad very few groups have the patience or understanding to let a warrior do a proper proximity pull (random groups often crowd too close regardless of instructions).