12-30-2004, 06:17 PM
Hi all,
Iâm currently playing a rogue. Build is combat-oriented over assassination, with sword/dagger combo and heavy focus on quick 1-on-1 kills, since I mostly solo. Solo play has been great â I always gain at least 1 level a night, usually 2, with lots of treasure, and mining and skinning bringing in the cash. I currently have 95 gold at level 36 which I think is pretty good. With vanish, distract, stealth, sprint, etc., I can choose virtually every battle and win every one I decide upon. But itâs lonely. So Iâve tried grouping. Results have ranged from mediocre to disastrous.
In warrior-less groups (which are actually the norm on my server, at least Horde-side), I play dodge-n-parry tank with healer backup. I also pull if there isnât a hunter. No problem keeping aggro of course. We kill very quickly and I only die if we get too many adds.
In warrior groups, my experiences have been horrible. Iâm used to dealing massive DPS 1-on-1, and can fight up to 4 at once if necessary, using gouge, kidney shot, etc. I can kill most mobs my level in 6-12 seconds depending on criticals and combo accrual. But warriors become furious with me when I use these abilities, so Iâm reduced to puller.
After that, I have no role. My stealth abilities are nominal so I tend not to use them. Iâve actually had warriors snap at me and tell me to play a rogue (meaning stealth over combat), not a fighter, even though Iâve pointed out theyâre dying and Iâm not, and Iâm leveling faster than just about anyone else I know. Which doesnât bring a warm response. So usually, I pull, make a half-hearted stealth to kill a stray mob if theyâre going after cloth, and then I just stand there using first aid as need be. I then smile and nod at the criticisms afterward â the warrior telling me to do nothing because he canât shift my aggro, and the others wondering why Iâve become so meek ever since the warrior has come on board. They blame me for not âcarrying my weightâ and loafing and making the warrior do all the work!
So I had a warrior ask me last night â why bother grouping? And I responded, you know, I have no idea. And I abandoned the party and left my guild. In groups I get worse experience, less fun, less participation, less treasure, and criticism. Soloing I get great experience, fun, full participation, all of the treasure, and no one to yell at me. Sure, itâs lonely, but really, why bother with a group that has a warrior in it?
My question is, if I should ever want to join a warrior-focused group, what should my role be? If the answer is either âre-spec to a stealth build,â âdo what youâre toldâ or âstay out of the way,â I already know what to do about it. But if I can, from the warrior perspective, have a crucial and effective role in a group, Iâd love to know what it is. Thanks!
Iâm currently playing a rogue. Build is combat-oriented over assassination, with sword/dagger combo and heavy focus on quick 1-on-1 kills, since I mostly solo. Solo play has been great â I always gain at least 1 level a night, usually 2, with lots of treasure, and mining and skinning bringing in the cash. I currently have 95 gold at level 36 which I think is pretty good. With vanish, distract, stealth, sprint, etc., I can choose virtually every battle and win every one I decide upon. But itâs lonely. So Iâve tried grouping. Results have ranged from mediocre to disastrous.
In warrior-less groups (which are actually the norm on my server, at least Horde-side), I play dodge-n-parry tank with healer backup. I also pull if there isnât a hunter. No problem keeping aggro of course. We kill very quickly and I only die if we get too many adds.
In warrior groups, my experiences have been horrible. Iâm used to dealing massive DPS 1-on-1, and can fight up to 4 at once if necessary, using gouge, kidney shot, etc. I can kill most mobs my level in 6-12 seconds depending on criticals and combo accrual. But warriors become furious with me when I use these abilities, so Iâm reduced to puller.
After that, I have no role. My stealth abilities are nominal so I tend not to use them. Iâve actually had warriors snap at me and tell me to play a rogue (meaning stealth over combat), not a fighter, even though Iâve pointed out theyâre dying and Iâm not, and Iâm leveling faster than just about anyone else I know. Which doesnât bring a warm response. So usually, I pull, make a half-hearted stealth to kill a stray mob if theyâre going after cloth, and then I just stand there using first aid as need be. I then smile and nod at the criticisms afterward â the warrior telling me to do nothing because he canât shift my aggro, and the others wondering why Iâve become so meek ever since the warrior has come on board. They blame me for not âcarrying my weightâ and loafing and making the warrior do all the work!
So I had a warrior ask me last night â why bother grouping? And I responded, you know, I have no idea. And I abandoned the party and left my guild. In groups I get worse experience, less fun, less participation, less treasure, and criticism. Soloing I get great experience, fun, full participation, all of the treasure, and no one to yell at me. Sure, itâs lonely, but really, why bother with a group that has a warrior in it?
My question is, if I should ever want to join a warrior-focused group, what should my role be? If the answer is either âre-spec to a stealth build,â âdo what youâre toldâ or âstay out of the way,â I already know what to do about it. But if I can, from the warrior perspective, have a crucial and effective role in a group, Iâd love to know what it is. Thanks!