There will be no real PvP system

[Bolty]

Oh, no, you're not going to draw me into that.
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Aww! :)

Then, you said that explorers like Lurkers tend to be would tend to do that.  Then, I said that's not true since really explorers tend to range far from griefers and that after the 20-30ish level hump, it's easy to explore places that don't have griefers.
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This still holds true. You and I have explored the high-grief areas to tears and have no problem instead sticking to low-grief areas, which I still claim will become almost non-existant except for instances, as more and more gankers hit the cap. However, what of Lurkers new to the game? What if they want to see all the quests in Duskwood, which you'll admit is a really fun questing area, and can't because of the gankfest that is Raven Hill? They should instead run Gnomeregan 8 times to level to 30?

Same with Stranglethorn Vale and other high-gank zones. You are once again letting griefers dictate the style of play to you. As has been pointed out in the thread already, "go to another zone" is oh-so-similar to "play in a passworded game," the backwards-logic warcry of the griefer for years.

Then, you said, but explorers like yourself would get bored easily at the level cap and therefore would tend to make lots of new characters and would constantly find themselves in the high-griefer zones.  Then, my latest response was that in fact life does not end at level 60, that there are lots of things for explorers to explore at 60, and that items become the mechanism by which one continues to level at 60.
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Doesn't this apply to both server types?

None of this has anything to do with item differences in PvP versus PvE.  In fact, I predict that there won't be any, since Blizzard developers have already said that one can earn honor points by killing NPC's.  The point of my discussion was that it is in fact not true that Lurkers who try out the PvP server will always find themselves the victims of griefers.  Azeroth is a large wide-open world, and it is easy to avoid or deal with the griefers if one wishes to do so.
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Doesn't it bother you that you can earn honor points by killing NPC's? It bothers me. NPCs are of course much easier to kill than other players. If you're Alliance, go up to the farms in the Arathi Highlands and just whack the Orcs there all day to score major points.

Of course Lurkers will not always find themselves the victims of griefers. I have quite a few times nailed the griefer who tried a move on me, or at least made him pay. And I still disagree that you can avoid them. Especially when they're mounted and you're not. There is no escape, unless you're willing to hide and do the same areas repeatedly when you're young - the very opposite of exploring.

Well, we're not going to convince each other, so I guess we're playing up to the other readers of this thread. Anyone want to comment on our discussion? It's been fairly quiet except for you and me, Mongo :)

-Bolty