11-03-2004, 07:12 PM
Fragbait,Nov 3 2004, 07:18 AM Wrote:Hi,
Seeing that the lounge doesn't have exactly such a thread yet, I thought it was time to start one. We could have all discussion over the result of the vote at this neat place.
As time goes by, George W. Bush seems to emerge victorious from this presidential election. Indeed about 250000 provisional ballots must still be counted, but John Kerry needs a major trend reversal to preserve his chances.
(see www.cnn.com)
My question to all that voted for Bush would be:
Why did you vote for him? What reasons influenced your decision? I'm really interested. Here in Europe (more precisely: Germany), most of us can hardly comprehend that choice. Please let us not turn this into flame bait, and try to restrict yourself to a short statement of 5 to 10 lines.
I'm not cagey about my own opinion: I would have chosen Kerry. Likewise would have 2/3 - 3/4 of all Europeans, as surveys show.
Thanks, Fragbait
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Silly, silly, Americans. John Kerry was right for the job, but the job wasn't right for him.
John Kerry would have tried to change things, but nothing would have been different. The enconomy would not have improved simply because he'd pull out of the war. Justfiable war = fixes economies. The problem is that the Iraq war is not a justifiable war.
The Trickle-down effect; taxing the rich would not have paid off of the national debt, but rather, tax cuts to the rich would theoretically stimulate the creation of jobs, leading to more spending (what Bush is doing). Honestly, I don't think it matters one way or the other, since things will only be getting worse for everyone. Either Bush or Kerry, it doesn't matter regarding the economy, one policy or the other would have done just about the same thing. So in that respect, I don't care who is elected. What does bother me about Bush getting re-elected is that things like the cure for parkinsons and paralysis will be delayed for 4 years at least, and maybe not ever found, because of Bush's stance on stem cell research. The only comfort I take in that is natural selection; medicine and science go against natural selection, allowing the sick and weak to live on and have children, when they really shouldn't.
John Kerry vs. George Bush was not Good vs. Evil as some people would have you imagine. It's one set of political aspirations vs. another set of monetary aspirations. More like, Not As Greedy vs. Extremely Greedy. Why does one want to become the president in the first place? Why does one want to do anything? Money, of course. If you can't live off of what you do, you find something else that you can do that sustains you, and do your other thing on the side. It just so happens that Bush can do everything he wants to do at the highest seat of power in the world; he collects wealth with all the benefits of being able to make the law.
All I can say is THANK GOD/ALLAH/JESUS/JEHOVA/VISHNU/EINSTEIN FOR TERM LIMITS. I knew John Kerry wouldn't win, simply because middle America is so incredible ignorant. They see, "GW Bush, the War President" and it gets them hard. The others see "GW Bush, the Protector of the World" and say, "we're safe because of GW. I'll vote for him". The businessmen see "GW Bush, Our Buddy, Looking Out For Us" and vote for him because, well, he IS one of them and is looking out for them. The religious (ignorant) people see "GW Bush, Crusader For God, Smiter of Pagans" and vote for him that way. The evangelical and fundamental religious types are the worst (best?) when it comes to gathering votes; Bush says, "gays = bad so no marriage for them, life = sacred therefore no stem cell research and no abortion" and they eat it up. What pisses me off is that there are so many of those people in the U.S., it's almost infathomable. All these people following something so ridiculous -- my rational mind can't comprehend such blind faith.
I could wax philosophical for hours, or I could go on a tirade about Religion and how it was used as a form of government in the past and is not completely and outmoded. It's only use now is to pacify the public. After all, a public that realizes the truth behind life, that we are just organisms here to consume and replicate and anything else we add to our existence is merely for show, we would have anarchy. We can't have that now, can we? Enough about that, I've gone way off topic... Where was I?
So yeah, Bush won because of his broader platform and campaigning. He played to the ignorant and religious (those terms are synonymous in my view) and won because of it. You notice, the places that Kerry won were all liberal areas, like New York, California and Nevada. Those places realized that Bush made mistakes and it was time for him to go. Really, though, if you make a huge public mistake, you get fired. That's how it goes. Happens to CEOs all the time. The People didn't fire Bush. Bush either really superbly tricked those ignorant people, or they just really didn't like John Kerry. I like to call Bush Voters, "Violently Ignorant". A vote for Bush validates his impetuous action, his incredibly, superlatively impetuous action.
What really bothers me is that since his actions have been validated, he is free to do it again. What oil rich country is next, hmm? I don't know, but it's probably not Saudi Arabia... Maybe they will invade Alberta!
The next attack on America will be from a militant super-power, not a terrorist group. Ugh, 4 more years of listening to Bush say "New-cue-lar". I just want to slap him in the mouth when he does that little "hyeh hyeh hyeh" laugh...
This president makes me want to move to Australia so when North Korea nukes the hell out the U.S., I won't be bathed in the fallout (I'm awfully close to New York...). Hey mates, put the shrimp on the bar-bee and all that, I'm comin' down there!
My apologies for the long post. I'm a bit miffed and needed to vent. At least I didn't do my religion rant, that one would be at least ten thousand words.
"Yay! We did it!"
"Who are you?"
"Um, uh... just ... a guy." *flee*
"Who are you?"
"Um, uh... just ... a guy." *flee*