Cheating ethics
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Jarulf,Oct 24 2004, 10:53 PM Wrote:So, if someone else uses such a program to get the values and then tell you or post them somewere it is suddenly not cheating? I don't see the difference, all those things I mentioned and many more are used on bnet as well. Exactly HOW you get the information is quite irrelevant in my opinion.

The main reason you can't see the level values are not in my opnion that they don't want it, it is because it is an abstract value and Blizzard tend to only show name and direct effects of things in game. The same why you don't see the level of a monster in game. The reason you can list monster levels at a site is because they don't change, the level you talk about for an item is individual for each specific item so you can't make lists for it. There is no big meeting with decisions and official policy setting on how it is meant to be at Blizzzard deciding that that level is a secret and players should not now it, while the monster level is not a secret but we will only tell on our website.

So no, there is no point in my opinion or it is not a good one, hence my initial reply.
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I responded to you last night but during my post, I lost connection to the LL. I haven’t bothered to read what everyone else said after your post because of this so if someone already said what I'm saying, I apologize:

Okay, I understand your point of view better now. Thank you for clarifying. I do agree with everything you are saying in regards to my point being "weak". Point taken ;) .

My only concern from here on out is that people that come to these boards will look on this thread and utilize it's context as a basis for talking about "cheating". I mean, your talking about using such things as .mpq readers, packet readers, and programs to understand better the functions of Diablo, in and off the net. People will see that as, "well great, I use a packet-sniffer all the time", and from there talks *could* progress into how the game functions... and just as easily degenerate into what items are actually displayed on the gamble screen, how to bypass the WP/Hostile timer, and other 'fine-line' topics that boarder on cheating.
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Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-19-2004, 03:34 PM
Cheating ethics - by adeyke - 10-19-2004, 03:42 PM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-19-2004, 04:54 PM
Cheating ethics - by vmxa - 10-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Cheating ethics - by gekko - 10-19-2004, 07:05 PM
Cheating ethics - by Taem - 10-19-2004, 07:51 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-19-2004, 08:27 PM
Cheating ethics - by Griselda - 10-19-2004, 10:58 PM
Cheating ethics - by Archon_Wing - 10-20-2004, 12:42 AM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-20-2004, 02:15 AM
Cheating ethics - by Munkay - 10-20-2004, 03:49 AM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-20-2004, 10:31 PM
Cheating ethics - by FoxBat - 10-20-2004, 10:35 PM
Cheating ethics - by Taem - 10-21-2004, 03:40 AM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-21-2004, 12:46 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-21-2004, 02:33 PM
Cheating ethics - by Zingydex - 10-21-2004, 02:55 PM
Cheating ethics - by ShadowHM - 10-21-2004, 05:39 PM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-21-2004, 05:46 PM
Cheating ethics - by Chaerophon - 10-21-2004, 06:45 PM
Cheating ethics - by vmxa - 10-21-2004, 07:38 PM
Cheating ethics - by FoxBat - 10-21-2004, 07:49 PM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-21-2004, 08:11 PM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-21-2004, 08:14 PM
Cheating ethics - by Archon_Wing - 10-21-2004, 09:01 PM
Cheating ethics - by ShadowHM - 10-21-2004, 11:32 PM
Cheating ethics - by FoxBat - 10-21-2004, 11:55 PM
Cheating ethics - by lfd - 10-22-2004, 12:27 AM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-22-2004, 08:30 PM
Cheating ethics - by vmxa - 10-23-2004, 02:39 AM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-23-2004, 03:21 AM
Cheating ethics - by Archon_Wing - 10-23-2004, 03:44 AM
Cheating ethics - by Minionman - 10-23-2004, 04:06 AM
Cheating ethics - by vmxa - 10-23-2004, 04:58 PM
Cheating ethics - by Occhidiangela - 10-24-2004, 03:10 AM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-24-2004, 08:41 AM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-24-2004, 08:50 AM
Cheating ethics - by ShadowHM - 10-24-2004, 12:13 PM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-24-2004, 06:41 PM
Cheating ethics - by Taem - 10-24-2004, 11:51 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-25-2004, 04:02 AM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-25-2004, 04:13 AM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-25-2004, 05:53 AM
Cheating ethics - by Archon_Wing - 10-25-2004, 06:43 AM
Cheating ethics - by Zingydex - 10-25-2004, 01:41 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-25-2004, 02:23 PM
Cheating ethics - by Archon_Wing - 10-25-2004, 04:39 PM
Cheating ethics - by Tal - 10-25-2004, 05:32 PM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-25-2004, 06:19 PM
Cheating ethics - by Tal - 10-25-2004, 07:11 PM
Cheating ethics - by Occhidiangela - 10-25-2004, 08:31 PM
Cheating ethics - by Tal - 10-25-2004, 08:54 PM
Cheating ethics - by vmxa - 10-25-2004, 09:04 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-25-2004, 09:11 PM
Cheating ethics - by whathuh - 10-25-2004, 09:14 PM
Cheating ethics - by Taem - 10-25-2004, 10:15 PM
Cheating ethics - by Tal - 10-25-2004, 11:33 PM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-26-2004, 06:40 AM
Cheating ethics - by Jarulf - 10-26-2004, 06:42 AM
Cheating ethics - by adeyke - 10-26-2004, 07:39 AM
Cheating ethics - by Occhidiangela - 10-26-2004, 01:47 PM

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