Presidential Debate
Thecla,Oct 5 2004, 01:51 AM Wrote:Well, to expand a little bit, IMO the divisions of opinion that exist on the Iraq war are too deeply and strongly held to simply say there are two sides to every argument. In the extreme case, one does not try to even-handedly present both sides of the argument about whether the earth is round or flat. I wouldn't be at all surprised, though, if we have different perpectives on who is the flat-earther. ;)

IMSHO, the Bush administration has been almost Orwellian in its justification and description of the Iraq war; something which may, perhaps, have contributed to the utter mess they have made of the occupation. I very much doubt it can be rescued by anyone at this point.
[right][snapback]57071[/snapback][/right]

Thankee for your explanation, I see what you mean.

Orwellian?

The Cold War was Orwellian, and we sorta won it.

This Not So Cold War, against the Islamicists, is a work in progress. If you want to see "Orwellian," take a good hard look at the ideology that we, and that includes you and me both, my dear Western Enlightenment raised friend, are up against.

Occhi
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Presidential Debate - by Yrrek - 10-01-2004, 02:07 AM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-01-2004, 02:14 AM
Presidential Debate - by Dozer - 10-01-2004, 02:15 AM
Presidential Debate - by Yrrek - 10-01-2004, 02:43 AM
Presidential Debate - by [wcip]Angel - 10-01-2004, 02:46 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-01-2004, 03:04 AM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 03:17 AM
Presidential Debate - by Medicine Man - 10-01-2004, 03:21 AM
Presidential Debate - by Munkay - 10-01-2004, 03:32 AM
Presidential Debate - by D-Dave - 10-01-2004, 03:53 AM
Presidential Debate - by Roland - 10-01-2004, 05:41 AM
Presidential Debate - by Jester - 10-01-2004, 05:53 AM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 06:11 AM
Presidential Debate - by Jester - 10-01-2004, 06:14 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-01-2004, 07:49 AM
Presidential Debate - by ShadowHM - 10-01-2004, 11:47 AM
Presidential Debate - by ShadowHM - 10-01-2004, 11:57 AM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-01-2004, 12:00 PM
Presidential Debate - by Munkay - 10-01-2004, 12:06 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 04:18 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 04:32 PM
Presidential Debate - by Jester - 10-01-2004, 05:07 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-01-2004, 05:13 PM
Presidential Debate - by ShadowHM - 10-01-2004, 06:04 PM
Presidential Debate - by nobbie - 10-01-2004, 06:10 PM
Presidential Debate - by channel1 - 10-01-2004, 06:23 PM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-01-2004, 06:47 PM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-01-2004, 06:49 PM
Presidential Debate - by ShadowHM - 10-01-2004, 06:55 PM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-01-2004, 07:09 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 07:09 PM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-01-2004, 07:23 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 08:31 PM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-01-2004, 08:43 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-01-2004, 09:04 PM
Presidential Debate - by D-Dave - 10-02-2004, 12:02 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-02-2004, 01:18 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-02-2004, 01:33 AM
Presidential Debate - by Roland - 10-02-2004, 02:09 AM
Presidential Debate - by Roland - 10-02-2004, 02:15 AM
Presidential Debate - by Roland - 10-02-2004, 02:31 AM
Presidential Debate - by Doc - 10-02-2004, 02:58 AM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-02-2004, 02:58 AM
Presidential Debate - by Assur - 10-02-2004, 05:00 AM
Presidential Debate - by channel1 - 10-02-2004, 05:08 AM
Presidential Debate - by JustAGuy - 10-02-2004, 04:32 PM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-02-2004, 06:03 PM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-02-2004, 07:40 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-02-2004, 08:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by WarLocke - 10-03-2004, 02:50 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-03-2004, 06:38 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-03-2004, 08:02 AM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-03-2004, 06:06 PM
Presidential Debate - by JustAGuy - 10-03-2004, 08:15 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-04-2004, 04:54 AM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-04-2004, 06:14 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 06:40 AM
Presidential Debate - by Thecla - 10-04-2004, 08:21 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-04-2004, 09:20 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 09:40 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-04-2004, 10:01 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 10:07 AM
Presidential Debate - by ShadowHM - 10-04-2004, 11:13 AM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-04-2004, 02:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-04-2004, 02:31 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-04-2004, 02:49 PM
Presidential Debate - by Tal - 10-04-2004, 02:49 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-04-2004, 02:56 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 03:15 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-04-2004, 03:30 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 03:33 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 03:44 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 03:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-04-2004, 04:02 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-04-2004, 04:45 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 05:29 PM
Presidential Debate - by Doc - 10-04-2004, 05:54 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 06:19 PM
Presidential Debate - by Doc - 10-04-2004, 06:35 PM
Presidential Debate - by Medicine Man - 10-04-2004, 08:17 PM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 09:05 PM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 09:08 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-04-2004, 09:30 PM
Presidential Debate - by Doc - 10-04-2004, 10:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-04-2004, 10:42 PM
Presidential Debate - by D-Dave - 10-04-2004, 11:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by Thecla - 10-05-2004, 07:51 AM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-05-2004, 08:39 AM
Presidential Debate - by Tal - 10-05-2004, 12:50 PM
Presidential Debate - by --Pete - 10-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-05-2004, 01:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by --Pete - 10-05-2004, 02:01 PM
Presidential Debate - by Tal - 10-05-2004, 02:26 PM
Presidential Debate - by Doc - 10-05-2004, 02:45 PM
Presidential Debate - by Tal - 10-05-2004, 02:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-06-2004, 02:42 AM
Presidential Debate - by gekko - 10-06-2004, 02:58 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-06-2004, 03:22 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-06-2004, 09:16 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-06-2004, 03:10 PM
Presidential Debate - by Den - 10-06-2004, 06:19 PM
Presidential Debate - by Jester - 10-07-2004, 04:00 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 06:02 AM
Presidential Debate - by Taem - 10-07-2004, 07:24 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-07-2004, 07:32 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-07-2004, 07:42 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 08:36 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 08:56 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 09:17 AM
Presidential Debate - by NuurAbSaal - 10-07-2004, 09:43 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 09:58 AM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-07-2004, 10:05 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 10:42 AM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-07-2004, 12:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 02:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by Armin - 10-07-2004, 03:52 PM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-07-2004, 07:58 PM
Presidential Debate - by Medicine Man - 10-07-2004, 09:02 PM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-08-2004, 12:48 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-08-2004, 12:50 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-08-2004, 01:03 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-09-2004, 02:46 AM
Presidential Debate - by Roland - 10-09-2004, 03:49 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-09-2004, 03:59 AM
Presidential Debate - by Chaerophon - 10-09-2004, 04:27 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-09-2004, 06:06 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-09-2004, 02:38 PM
Presidential Debate - by Urza-DSF - 10-09-2004, 06:36 PM
Presidential Debate - by Medicine Man - 10-10-2004, 02:01 AM
Presidential Debate - by nobbie - 10-10-2004, 07:12 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Presidential Debate - by apandapion - 10-12-2004, 03:21 PM
Presidential Debate - by apandapion - 10-12-2004, 03:28 PM
Presidential Debate - by apandapion - 10-12-2004, 03:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by NuurAbSaal - 10-12-2004, 04:29 PM
Presidential Debate - by --Pete - 10-13-2004, 02:31 PM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-13-2004, 09:07 PM
Presidential Debate - by Zarathustra - 10-14-2004, 12:02 AM
Presidential Debate - by Griselda - 10-14-2004, 12:25 AM
Presidential Debate - by Minionman - 10-14-2004, 03:01 AM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-14-2004, 04:30 AM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-14-2004, 05:22 AM
Presidential Debate - by Sir_Die_alot - 10-14-2004, 04:35 PM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-14-2004, 08:25 PM
Presidential Debate - by Griselda - 10-14-2004, 09:15 PM
Presidential Debate - by apandapion - 10-14-2004, 09:59 PM
Presidential Debate - by Guest - 10-14-2004, 11:03 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-20-2004, 05:29 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-20-2004, 05:33 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-20-2004, 05:40 PM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-22-2004, 09:04 AM
Presidential Debate - by Nicodemus Phaulkon - 10-22-2004, 02:28 PM
Presidential Debate - by ManaCraft - 10-22-2004, 07:26 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-24-2004, 03:19 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-24-2004, 02:35 PM
Presidential Debate - by ldw - 10-25-2004, 01:35 PM
Presidential Debate - by Occhidiangela - 10-25-2004, 05:12 PM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-26-2004, 06:53 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-26-2004, 07:55 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-26-2004, 08:31 AM
Presidential Debate - by kandrathe - 10-26-2004, 09:09 AM
Presidential Debate - by eppie - 10-26-2004, 09:37 AM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 36 Guest(s)