Presidential Debate
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kandrathe,Oct 4 2004, 12:01 PM Wrote:But I suspect, people are really just looking for anything at which they might take offense.
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Well, well, well. From what I have learned so far, You and I obviously have our own believes on most things regarding the Bush administration and for my part, I can accept that.
As stated before, I do realy enjoy a good factual Discussion. So let's get back on that turf rather then accusing one another for searching for things that we can take offense.

So let me get the "either with us..." context straight I was reffering to.
One hint can be found in the "Remarks by the President To the Warsaw Conference on Combatting Terrorism" (here)

Quote: Al Qaeda operates in more than 60 nations, including some in Central and Eastern Europe.
Ok, "operates" does not realy imply that they aid the Terrorists, only that they are not doing enough about it.
Quote:Later this week, at the United Nations, I will set out my vision of our common responsibilities in the war on terror.  I will put every nation on notice that these duties involve more than sympathy or words.  No nation can be neutral in this conflict, because no civilized nation can be secure in a world threatened by terror.
Ok, so in other words, other nations have duties - fair enough - and Bush will tell them what these duties are. The second point is exactly what caused all the trouble. Maybe because some nations dare to believe that they are sovereign Nations and not Bush's lackeys.

But all this realy vague and sort of foreplay, the only important thing was this:
Quote:"Over time it's going to be important for nations to know they will be held accountable for inactivity," he said. "You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror." (here)
sounds pretty clear to me.

So in what way did I take this "out of context"? On the contrary, I also added all my statements up in one post to show that those statements and actions can only be seen in context to each other!
More simply put, I'd be most greatful if you would stop accusing me of liking to take things out of context as this is simply untrue. After all this is a place for discussions and not for personal attacks.

Edit: Well, I changed my view about one Member of the Bush Administration: My new best Friend Don. His speech today was just neat, despite his paddeling back later on :-) Iraq having no WMD? No link to Terrorists? Interesting Read here :D
BTW, makes me wonder what is this "important" announcment Bush has to make this wednesday, as polls are not looking too good, maybe Osama has finaly been caught? Ok, ok, that one was sarcastic...sorry ;)
I am not trying to post like a Wanker but my english has a pretty strong krautish influence.

Feel free to flame the content but give me some slack on spelling an grammar, thanks Smile
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