To cheat or not to cheat?

[Archon_Wing]

Hi, I'm in a stressful mood today, and the only one who doen't have you on ignore. Some of the other posters have already discredited you, but let's take that out of the way today. Perhaps you can take this as crticism to make a better argument in the future.

Disclaimer: This is not directed towards the women who are an exception to the 'norm' or what would seem to be the norm

Ouch, tripped in the beginning. Who are you to decide what is the "norm?" I suppose you could go outside and see, but that would only be a single sample. I don't suppose you can distinguish the norm for groups of women in all cities in the world? Popular culture? That hardly goes beyond your own country. It's more like "Not directed towards women who I think are not normal."

Furthermore, using a disclaimer is not that great of a shield.

More on this later.

first; to break this down:

I'd remember that Dii.net is run mostly by women,

I don't know about this, also, it's not really relevant to why people got up in arms.

Perhaps, he was making a factual statement. Of course, if you break it down like this it seems harmless. But what was the intention of said statement.

Logically, to lead to this.

and no offense to Griselda,

You should probably have put a more generaly disclaimer, like the one above

Um, yea.... Sorry, a disclaimer does not protect you from stupidity.

you gals tend to like gossip, conflict, and the "who's cheating on who" stories. 

This seems to be the thing that everyone seems to have got a bee in their bonnets about. So I shall take this back to the beginning:
Genereally speaking, everyone likes to get to the top of whatever society or situation they find themselves in, this is just human nature.
This is where men and women 'split up', just onservation of people, and no doubt some studies have shown that in general men try to get to the top by surpassing everyone else, and women generally get to the top by bringing everyone else down, and a good way to do this is to gossip and tell tales. Now, like I've said before there are plenty of women who don't but it still seems to be the majority.

Why of course. But show me a valid scientific or socilogical survey that shows most women gossip, or even a lot. Sorry, ancedontal evidence doesn't cut it.

I'm afraid popular culture magazines are not valid. God help you if you rely on those to back up other arguments.

Plus, the whole sentence was about their inability to run a site, as can be assumed from him complaining about the site and admins. He had to add in the fact that they were women. Problems yet?

Archon:

If he had to fill it with facts then it would be that, facts, not an opinion, the entire difference is that one is a fact and the other an opinion, an opinion is stronger when stated with facts, and to some extent a fact with an opinion can be stronger - however, if someone doesn't have any facts to back up an opinion, it's no reason not to take the opinion for what it is, his opinion. It is a fact that he thinks what he thinks.

You did not read my part accurately at all. You are entitled to your own opinion, but if you can't back it up, don't expect any one to take you seriously. Refer to this thread: http://www.lurkerlounge.com/forums/index.p...2&t=357&hl=iraq

If you don't mind looking like an idiot and refuse to debate anything, you are free to give your uninformed opinions. Don't expect anyone to take it seriously though.

Unless, you overly lean over to subjective reasoning. Which, in that case, means you are always right. But that doesn't extend beyond yourself.

You see, the whole point of expressing your opinion is not only to say what you think, but to also consider the fact that you might be wrong. Not doing that defeats the purpose of expressing it in the first place.

And what Conner said wasn't sexist, it was making a generalisation, which may have been wrong, unless what he was saying that women do is a derogatory thing, he's not insulting women by saying it, is saying 'all Americans are fat' racist? it depends on whether you want to call American fat as an insult, or if you simply wish to state your opinion that all Americans are obese.

Generalizations are what they are. A generaliztion about women is about women. Therefore a negative generlization is directed against women. That is sexist. And yes, that particular statement had negative connotations. Most people can easily see why.

Amercians are obese? Well statstics show a signifigant amound are. But you see, that has a basis in reality.

No doubt my post has been seen as highly controvertial, and will most probably draw flames. I do not like flames, nor to I like drawing flames, but if something needs to be said, I'll brave flames to say it.

It's too bad, you failed to justify your opinions well enough. And the fact is trying to be diffrent isn't that cool anymore.

Hiding behind disclaimers only show that you have a weak argument. Better luck next time.