VanCleef Assault

[Lissa]

No, really?

Seriously, one of my probs is that every one of these 8 attempts has been winnable except for 1, when I had a level 14 and 16 in the party (far too weak for the instance). In every other situation, either server crashes, player lagouts, or the all-too-common problem of a party member making a critical mistake has ended the attempt. But I know we could have succeeded.

Sometimes the mistake is that the party does not accept when it is outmatched - this occurred last time when about 6-7 mobs were aggroed on the ship and came for us at once. Instead of fleeing, the party stuck around and was annihilated. There is no shame in recognizing an unwinnable pull and retreating. ESPECIALLY the characters that can res (Paladins, Priests). This happens despite repeated /v Run and just typing RUN! in the party chat. Personal beef of mine - I think that players feel that if they run, they're letting the team down, but I'd much rather see a res'ing class playing cautiously and saving us than throwing yet another attempt at VC and 2 hours down the drain.

If I bring a party with me of high-level players who just gank the whole instance, I'm admitting defeat. We have some very good players here, and it's just stupid that we're not able to accomplish this.

-Bolty

Actually, with that last run, I said run as soon as they started coming, but no one moved. I ended up trying to sacrifice myself to get Tri out of there (yes, the Rogue tanking 6 Elites and actually surviving for about 15 seconds) so we could res, but Tri was too effected by lag to do anything.

Next time, we go around the port side of the ship and take out cookie and the guys on that side so we have clear sailing to get out of the instance after VanCleef falls.