07-14-2004, 05:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-14-2004, 05:47 AM by Swiss Mercenary.)
It is safe to say that if you see the player's cursor snap to the target, in an instant motion (Without the target acquisition that players go through - if your cursor moves past the target, you snap it back to correct it), and you see it happen with every kill they make, that player is cheating. I have spectated a good amount of cheaters, and a good amount of skilled players that it makes it easy to figure out who is who. Unless bots have added those complex features, spectating makes it rather easy to detect.
Unfortunately, the rumours of admins banning people just for being good, are true. I have seen paranoid rcon users banning people for getting several headshots in quick sucession, etc. (The posibillity that those people just MIGHT have snuck up behind the unaware team, and shot them all at near-point-blank) could not possibly enter those admins' dreams.
From my experiences in playing both Cheater-strike, and playing in a very small niche mod community (200, 300 people at most), I see a surprising, but logical distinction. One of the reasons that CS admins are so trigger-happy, is that if you get banned at one server, there are thousands more you can play on. However, getting banned from the main server in a smaller mod, like Thievery (Especially considering that every running server almost completely shares the same ban list) means getting you effectively banned from the game - hence a lot of research is done into players before they are accused of cheating. For instance, of the five cheaters that had to be banned in the past 2 years, the first was using a radar hack, and every active admin at the time could verify that (And some of those admins are still running their servers today). The other two were descent players without their cheats, but turned into super-human machines with their aimbots - they were banned simultaneously, with about 20 minutes of video evidence presented to the community. The fourth, and most recent pair of cheaters was getting on the community's nerves for a while - his brother would give player locations in spectator mode for him before, they caused troubles on the servers, and when they were suspected of using an aimbot, that was the last straw.
So far, there have been people in the tiny community who were not convinced by the evidence - a small, but vocal minority. As an interesting note, all 5 cheaters have tried to sneak their way back into the community, through registering new forum accounts, getting new ISPs, posing as newbies, etc. Aparrently, the words "permenantly" and "banned" do not exist in their dictionaries. Of course, since they were repedeately banned, they have turned to taking cheap shots at the server admins from the mod's official forums, where they also are discovered, and banned on a regular basis.
Odd, but I thought, in my time, for all four of them to be allright people - a little eccentric, but allright. Most of the community shared that view. And as their "skill" grew, they grew more and more arrogant, and more and more careless.
Unfortunately, the rumours of admins banning people just for being good, are true. I have seen paranoid rcon users banning people for getting several headshots in quick sucession, etc. (The posibillity that those people just MIGHT have snuck up behind the unaware team, and shot them all at near-point-blank) could not possibly enter those admins' dreams.
From my experiences in playing both Cheater-strike, and playing in a very small niche mod community (200, 300 people at most), I see a surprising, but logical distinction. One of the reasons that CS admins are so trigger-happy, is that if you get banned at one server, there are thousands more you can play on. However, getting banned from the main server in a smaller mod, like Thievery (Especially considering that every running server almost completely shares the same ban list) means getting you effectively banned from the game - hence a lot of research is done into players before they are accused of cheating. For instance, of the five cheaters that had to be banned in the past 2 years, the first was using a radar hack, and every active admin at the time could verify that (And some of those admins are still running their servers today). The other two were descent players without their cheats, but turned into super-human machines with their aimbots - they were banned simultaneously, with about 20 minutes of video evidence presented to the community. The fourth, and most recent pair of cheaters was getting on the community's nerves for a while - his brother would give player locations in spectator mode for him before, they caused troubles on the servers, and when they were suspected of using an aimbot, that was the last straw.
So far, there have been people in the tiny community who were not convinced by the evidence - a small, but vocal minority. As an interesting note, all 5 cheaters have tried to sneak their way back into the community, through registering new forum accounts, getting new ISPs, posing as newbies, etc. Aparrently, the words "permenantly" and "banned" do not exist in their dictionaries. Of course, since they were repedeately banned, they have turned to taking cheap shots at the server admins from the mod's official forums, where they also are discovered, and banned on a regular basis.
Odd, but I thought, in my time, for all four of them to be allright people - a little eccentric, but allright. Most of the community shared that view. And as their "skill" grew, they grew more and more arrogant, and more and more careless.