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03-25-2003, 07:45 PM
First, I don't know how you came to associate the whole "forcing democracy" thing with me. IIRC I have never commented on this issue and I certainly agree that forcing a democracy on someone will not work.

Fortunately, I'm not quite as dumb as my posts may make me seem, I actually happen to know how democracies come about.

Quote:They did indeed "choose" their system. It might have been the only choice open to them because of their lack of opportunities in terms of education and financial betterment. They didn't have a national referendum and say "we want to be oppressed".

Quote:Perhaps the situation was not such that they could have done so,...

one choice=no choice, or not?


Anyway, I never meant to discuss the possibility of change of form of government in NK, I just thought that "basically, each nation has the right to go to hell in a fashion of their choosing. If the population puts up with it, then (IMO) they aren't ready for anything better." was inappropriate (since Clinton I can't use that word without a chuckle). Your last two paragraphs seem to have their origin in the misunderstanding I mentioned in my first paragraph.

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Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-20-2003, 06:20 PM
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