Well, isn't this deeply disturbing?

[NinjaRooster]

Torture in regards to what is listed in that KUBART book is more like humiliation techniques combined with a bit of psychology.  Threatening to inflict pain or humiliating another human being by making them run around naked, while I don't think it’s the healthiest thing in the world to do to another person or have done to you, is not torture by any stretch of the imagination.

While the first definition listed under torture is “extreme mental duress,” the rest of the definitions describe unbearable physical pain, suffering physical pain in agony, and the act of distorting something so it seems to mean something it was not intended to.  When I think of torture, I picture electrocution, thumbtacks, pulling teeth, mutilation, anything inclusive with physical pain.  I do NOT think physical torture is a healthy aspect of a war, nor does it work; as a matter of fact, it has been PROVEN not to work and usually has the opposite effect!  What KUBART is describing is more of a psychological game with no real physical harm being done, and I see nothing wrong with that.

What disturbs me is stories I’ve heard of immigrants who have fled Cuba and other countries from a dictator who takes pleasure from harming others, mutilating parents in front of their children, raping and abusing women and children, scaring, starvation, and just terrible things I cant begin to describe.  There was this one eight year old girl who watched her family murdered and mutilated in front of her, then she was raped and locked in a cage with her dying mother, dead father and brothers.  She was rescued three days later and after recovering from broken bones, made it to the states a few years later.  For the rest of her life she will not be mentally alright, and I believe she lost the ability to have children of her own.  Now that makes me sick and that is torture.  Don’t get me wrong, if Americans are “torturing” Iraqis, then I hope they are caught and sentenced in an international court along with whoever ordered their torturing.  However if they are just playing mind games with the Iraqis in a hope to gleam information, then I seen nothing wrong with that!

Since it's so 'alright', would you like to play 'mind games'?


I am willing to engage on a discussion of the consequences of these 'mind games' that you so easily dismiss to the inconsequential bin.


~NinjaRooster