05-06-2004, 08:41 AM
Sir_Die_alot,May 5 2004, 05:43 AM Wrote:You must be #$%&ting me. Gas prices are at reacord highs even though the oil fields are well within our hands. If this was about oil we would already be stealing it, letting the rest of Iraq rot, not be paying the BILLIONS of dollars for troop support that comes with it, and I would not be paying $2.07 for a gallon of gas at the cheap gas station! You are freaking crazy if "no blood for oil" is STILL ringing this loudly in your ears!OOh poor you: 2 dollars for a gallon of gas. We pay 1.30 euro for a liter.
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Your comments about the "war for oil" are a simplification of the cause. It does not mean that when the US goes to Irak your oil gets cheaper all of a sudden. It is supposed to be for future profits and to stop the oil trading currency changing from dollars to euros. Further (I have said this before, and probably I will be accused of thinking in conspiracy theories again) the US government looses money, but that is money which comers from the US tax payers. US companies make money out of this war, and seeing as they are the ones paying for Bush' campaigns and are very powerful they are also very much involved in this conflict I think.
About the crimes: I'm shocked to see that so many of you say something like "it is war" or "can happen, not my problem". First as a civilized country (US) this should not be tolerated, also for the fact that you lose a lot of credibility and goodwill from the arab and western world.
I was not suprised by the way. We know that these things also happened in Vietnam, Nicaragua, and more or less any dirty conflict in the world (not only involving US). But as I said, as leader of the modern free world the US should not involve itsself in these things.
If these tortures were ordered by high army officers or just done by some sick soldiers I don't know jet.
I saw a docu on television about the recruitment of soldier for the marines, and I must say, I changed my opoinion a bit and think that these tortureings are done just by these marines and were not ordered.
The US government should, get these people out of irak, put them on trial for war crimes. They should show the rest of the world that they don't allow these malpractices. (I think Bush is allready taken measures by the way).
Finally we have seen some fotoos and video's now but I wonder how many times these things happen when there is no camera around?.