It wasn't me talking about Van Cleef, it was Mongo =) 3 times I believe their party tried, and got killed every time. The only time I had a decent party trying to do Van Cleef, the instance was broken and we could not even get into it! I guess I will have to wait a while before trying Van Cleef again.
On a different note, I am surprised mages did not get any kind of tank, and even got phantasm removed. You would think that their damage would be improved to reflect this...
On a different note, I am surprised mages did not get any kind of tank, and even got phantasm removed. You would think that their damage would be improved to reflect this...