Well, me too. :)
My trouble with the Catholic version of dogma in general is that one is branded a heretic or they are asked to become either a sheep (just follow), or a donkey (trying to justify the logic or illogic of "The Church"). To be asked not to use ones brain and just accept what is told or to "dogmatically" defend the human proclamations of the "Holy See" no matter how disproven or illogical they might be seems to be at odds with Christ's teaching themselves.
This issue of Original Sin is actually an example of a radical Western Church's Pope (Pius IX, 1792â1878) making into dogma the scholarship of theologians Tertullian and Augustine. And, then again, which church? Eastern Othodoxy was not exposed to Augustine's writings until the 17th century. They believe that humans bear the consequences of original sin, but unlike the west, do not believe that humans bear the guilt of original sin. So who can blame Catholics for being confused -- each Pope can infallibly tell them what to think.
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My trouble with the Catholic version of dogma in general is that one is branded a heretic or they are asked to become either a sheep (just follow), or a donkey (trying to justify the logic or illogic of "The Church"). To be asked not to use ones brain and just accept what is told or to "dogmatically" defend the human proclamations of the "Holy See" no matter how disproven or illogical they might be seems to be at odds with Christ's teaching themselves.
This issue of Original Sin is actually an example of a radical Western Church's Pope (Pius IX, 1792â1878) making into dogma the scholarship of theologians Tertullian and Augustine. And, then again, which church? Eastern Othodoxy was not exposed to Augustine's writings until the 17th century. They believe that humans bear the consequences of original sin, but unlike the west, do not believe that humans bear the guilt of original sin. So who can blame Catholics for being confused -- each Pope can infallibly tell them what to think.
Quote:About Pius IX,Handy that. After that establishing dogma and heresy would be much easier, because Popes have never been wrong before(sic). I am not a big fan of this guy, anyway.
In 1869 he convoked the First Vatican Council, the principal work of which was the enunciation of papal infallibility.
My thoughts are more in line with --
Quote:Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear. -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.
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