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04-05-2004, 02:20 AM

I cannot fathom the "original sin" concept either. I can understand the "god is pure goodness" and thus, cannot coexist with souls allowed to be corrupted by their own free will. Evil, then being a necessary part of allowing mankind free will. My understanding of the Christan viewpoint is that Christ cleanses souls of sin and allows them to enter into the presence of God. At the time of Christ, there were many sects who attempted to lead "perfect" lives by the laws of the Torah. Christ spoke out radically against those "hypocrites" that were strict adherents to the law, but had no love of God, and no love of humanity.

But I know many Catholics who do not really believe that un-baptized babies go to hell due to "original sin".

”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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