Charm Cubeing
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Interesting.

Quote:ilvl 1..104 for shop purchases

This does seem to be true.

Quote:ilvl 1..103 for gambles

This doesn't.

I was wondering if the possibility of ilvls above 99 would mean that I'd have to modify my calculators. Certain uniques have CTC effects whose slvl depends on the ilvl of the item. If one were to gamble such an item with a sufficiently high-level character (being very, very lucky), an ilvl above 99 would also mean a higher slvl than I calculated.

For example, the Rising Sun has up to a slvl 19 meteor CTC effect. An ilvl of 100+ would yield slvl 20 instead.

So I modded the game to make every amulet gamble a Rising Sun and brought in a level 99 character to gamble away.

Out of an entire inventory, there wasn't a single slvl 20 meteor. The chances of that just being bad luck are .6^40, or about 1/750,000,000. I conclude that it wasn't possible to get a slvl 20 meteor Rising Sun from gambling.

Furthermore, while the gambling screen will show qlvl 99 items, it won't show qlvl 100 items, since these apparently violate the ilvl >= qlvl restriction. The qlvl 100 items do show up in stores, though, where such a restriction also applies.

I think it's safe to conclude that gambling does still have a cap of 99.

This means that the only way to get an ilvl 100+ item is from the clone (and only Annihilus there) or from shops (magic items only). So I don't have to change my calculators.

Quote:Although in SP you could use ATMA. On bnet you merely have to find a cheater using maphack and put the item in the trade window (as I discovered to my chagrin the other day).

IMHO, though, since the game doesn't tell you the ilvl and there's no way to figure it out with perfect precision (unless you remember where it came from), it's not something you're meant to know. So I don't like that ATMA gives that information to players. It's certainly useful for testing things, but I keep testing and playing completely separate. Certainly, actively benefitting from someone else's MH (I'm not talking about your case) isn't morally superior to using MH yourself.

BTW, ATMA does have a bug in regards to the ilvl; it caps them at 99 even though we know better.
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Charm Cubeing - by shavenlunatic - 01-26-2004, 04:03 PM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 01-26-2004, 05:45 PM
Charm Cubeing - by Obi2Kenobi - 01-27-2004, 12:11 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Ruvanal - 01-27-2004, 03:02 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Obi2Kenobi - 01-27-2004, 11:32 PM
Charm Cubeing - by Jeger - 01-28-2004, 11:29 PM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 01-28-2004, 11:31 PM
Charm Cubeing - by shavenlunatic - 01-28-2004, 11:57 PM
Charm Cubeing - by Obi2Kenobi - 01-29-2004, 12:15 AM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 01-29-2004, 02:27 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Crystalion - 01-29-2004, 03:41 AM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 01-29-2004, 05:05 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Nightwind - 01-29-2004, 05:21 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Crystalion - 01-29-2004, 05:31 AM
Charm Cubeing - by bigeyedbug - 01-29-2004, 06:34 AM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 01-29-2004, 07:29 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Nightwind - 02-01-2004, 08:52 AM
Charm Cubeing - by bigeyedbug - 02-04-2004, 03:48 AM
Charm Cubeing - by adeyke - 02-04-2004, 05:04 AM
Charm Cubeing - by DukeTrout - 02-05-2004, 12:23 AM
Charm Cubeing - by bigeyedbug - 02-05-2004, 02:04 AM
Charm Cubeing - by Obi2Kenobi - 02-05-2004, 04:22 AM
Charm Cubeing - by DukeTrout - 02-07-2004, 12:13 AM

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