The hypocrisy has reached new levels
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Nystul,Jan 23 2004, 03:43 AM Wrote:Here's my take on your link:  only 18 Asian-Americans incarcerated in the entire state of Oklahoma!  They have the highest per capita income and the lowest crime rates nationwide, even better than European-Americans in both categories.  Yet they face more than their fair share of bigotry.  I think there is a cultural dynamic at play here, and I don't think affirmative action politics do a darn thing to help the situation.
That's one reason I think the whole situation is crap. I'm Asian. I sure as hell didn't "reap the benifits of oppression" Maybe Asians weren't enslaved but there were pretty much a despised minority who were not welcome by others. Through popular culture, I don't think the view of Asians is too positive either.Of course it doesn't matter that a good deal of Asian Amercians came here not too lately with few posessions and had to struggle with whatever little they had. But somehow usually Asians aren't considered a minority that needs help. Where's my benifit? Should I cry everytime I meet the next asshole who goes "you speak English?" in a condescending tone? Now sure, maybe Asians are about <5% of the poipulation and haven't been as longer since so they don't really matter. They're not a signifigant minority. Hyprocrisy? I'm no stranger to racism, but I'm quite sure that as long as we keep thinking about race, and dividing them up by race it's certainly not going to solve the problem. Race is way embedded into our culture and maybe the right direction is to find a way to get over it.

There are many points in this thread that made me think. Affirmative Action tries to help disadantaged folks by getting them into highter education but we seem to not care about dooming them to inferiority for the first 17 years. I mean seriously, if we were to give extra funding to schools that perform well, can't we see the obvious consequence? Which school is going to do better? The school in a upper middle class where parents can afford tutors or a school in a working class area where walking to school might be dangerous. Isn't it obvious which school we should be looking after more. Instead of making some half-assed effort to make up for the disadvantges poor students go through because they had crappy conditions, how improving those conditions? Can anyone expect kids to magicaly succeed when they've been given substandard education for so long?

Alas, this thread has a lot of stuff to digest. I'll be back to organize my thoughts, if I ever get to it. :)
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The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Yrrek - 01-22-2004, 01:41 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Assur - 01-22-2004, 03:31 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Jester - 01-22-2004, 05:42 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-22-2004, 05:51 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-22-2004, 05:58 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Nystul - 01-22-2004, 11:07 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-22-2004, 04:38 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-22-2004, 05:00 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-22-2004, 05:04 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-22-2004, 06:45 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-22-2004, 08:05 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-22-2004, 08:09 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-22-2004, 08:43 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-22-2004, 10:20 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by jahcs - 01-22-2004, 11:14 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Jester - 01-22-2004, 11:47 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-23-2004, 12:31 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-23-2004, 02:13 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 06:27 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-23-2004, 06:30 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 06:34 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 06:43 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 06:50 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Nystul - 01-23-2004, 11:52 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 01:31 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-23-2004, 04:18 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-23-2004, 05:02 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-23-2004, 11:14 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-24-2004, 12:26 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-24-2004, 02:21 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-25-2004, 04:58 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-25-2004, 10:22 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-25-2004, 11:23 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-25-2004, 11:53 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-26-2004, 12:24 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-26-2004, 02:22 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-26-2004, 02:29 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Archon_Wing - 01-26-2004, 02:50 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-26-2004, 04:04 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-26-2004, 05:27 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Nystul - 01-26-2004, 07:53 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-26-2004, 08:35 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-26-2004, 08:37 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-26-2004, 08:37 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-26-2004, 08:42 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-26-2004, 04:09 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-26-2004, 10:08 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-26-2004, 11:51 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Guest - 01-27-2004, 02:55 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-27-2004, 06:16 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by Doc - 01-28-2004, 05:38 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by jahcs - 01-28-2004, 06:10 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-28-2004, 06:23 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by --Pete - 01-28-2004, 08:17 PM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-31-2004, 06:38 AM
The hypocrisy has reached new levels - by whyBish - 01-31-2004, 06:47 AM
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