12-19-2003, 10:08 PM
In the book, the focus stays at all time on the "heroes".
You never get "insider peeps" at the "baddies side".
So that scene just doesn't exist in the book.
What's in the book, though (and maybe in the movie cut scenes), is the confrontation between Saruman and Gandalf at Orthanc after the battle of Helm Deep.
At the end of that confrontation, Grima throws down a "stone" at the wizards. The heroes think he was targetting Gandalf and just missed, but Gandalf notes that he probably didn't know whom he hated most, him or Saruman, and thus couldn't decide whom to kill.
And the "stone" which crashes down between the two wizards is... the Palantir.
And obviously, there's the coming home of the hobbits at the end which is totally missing and where you get more of the Grima / Saruman relationship.
You never get "insider peeps" at the "baddies side".
So that scene just doesn't exist in the book.
What's in the book, though (and maybe in the movie cut scenes), is the confrontation between Saruman and Gandalf at Orthanc after the battle of Helm Deep.
At the end of that confrontation, Grima throws down a "stone" at the wizards. The heroes think he was targetting Gandalf and just missed, but Gandalf notes that he probably didn't know whom he hated most, him or Saruman, and thus couldn't decide whom to kill.
And the "stone" which crashes down between the two wizards is... the Palantir.
And obviously, there's the coming home of the hobbits at the end which is totally missing and where you get more of the Grima / Saruman relationship.