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12-15-2003, 04:02 PM
Moldran,Dec 12 2003, 06:14 PM Wrote:If it was necessary to lie to the American public in order to make the removal of the Baath regime possible, then it is a good thing that they were being lied to. If what you imply is true, that the war would not have started if Bush had spoken the truth, which I doubt, then his lies probably safed more lives than they costed.
I apologize for responding so late to this. Life gets busy at this time of year. B) I have been scanning the posts here, but not giving much more time to them. However, the comment quoted stayed at the back of my mind.

Do the ends justify the means?

Democracy is supposed to be a form of government 'of the people, by the people, for the people'.

If it is necessary to lie to the people to do what is 'right', then there is something terribly wrong with democracy i.e. if a leader needs to lie to the people to get 'good things' done .

And if that is the case, why are we trying to export it?
Because it is still better than the alternatives? I happen to still think it is. But I still deplore the notion that lies are permissible for an elected leader, especially when he is taking his country to war.
And you may call it righteousness
When civility survives,
But I've had dinner with the Devil and
I know nice from right.

From Dinner with the Devil, by Big Rude Jake


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What You Don't Read in the Papers - by TheDragoon - 12-12-2003, 05:17 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by --Pete - 12-12-2003, 05:31 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by jahcs - 12-12-2003, 05:35 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-12-2003, 11:23 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Guest - 12-12-2003, 11:51 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by jahcs - 12-13-2003, 01:09 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Vandiablo - 12-13-2003, 04:38 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Vandiablo - 12-13-2003, 04:44 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Mavfin - 12-13-2003, 05:00 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-13-2003, 05:30 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-13-2003, 07:29 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-13-2003, 07:36 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Vandiablo - 12-13-2003, 07:54 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-13-2003, 02:35 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Zenda - 12-13-2003, 03:10 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Haider - 12-13-2003, 03:37 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by TheDragoon - 12-13-2003, 05:38 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-13-2003, 06:33 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-13-2003, 09:16 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-13-2003, 10:00 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-13-2003, 10:22 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Guest - 12-14-2003, 02:52 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Jester - 12-14-2003, 09:03 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-14-2003, 09:54 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Chaerophon - 12-15-2003, 02:26 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Nystul - 12-15-2003, 04:58 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Chaerophon - 12-15-2003, 08:04 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-15-2003, 01:53 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by ShadowHM - 12-15-2003, 04:02 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by kandrathe - 12-15-2003, 08:10 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Bob - 12-15-2003, 10:54 PM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Chaerophon - 12-16-2003, 12:21 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by Moldran - 12-16-2003, 12:54 AM
What You Don't Read in the Papers - by kandrathe - 12-16-2003, 02:15 AM

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