12-14-2003, 12:29 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-14-2003, 12:39 AM by Occhidiangela.)
Reply to Moldran:
If you polish it hard enough, will a turd shine? We shall see.
Insofar as "takes long term military presence" yes it did in Germany and Japan, however, in the current world, I'd say it takes long term multilateral effort. Not saying the UN is an or the answer, but that there are barrels of expertise in representative government that are at present being untapped.
As to will? We shall see. Without it, Iraq today will look a slight mess in comparison to Iraq if America pulls an "Aw #$%&, these ungrateful rat bags aren't worth it" number and leaves . . . which is what a lot of pundits are calling for.
Which reminds us why Geo Bush the elder did NOT continue on to Iraq after he knocked them out of Kuwait: he did not want to own Iraq's problems by becoming "an occupying power."
If you polish it hard enough, will a turd shine? We shall see.
Insofar as "takes long term military presence" yes it did in Germany and Japan, however, in the current world, I'd say it takes long term multilateral effort. Not saying the UN is an or the answer, but that there are barrels of expertise in representative government that are at present being untapped.
As to will? We shall see. Without it, Iraq today will look a slight mess in comparison to Iraq if America pulls an "Aw #$%&, these ungrateful rat bags aren't worth it" number and leaves . . . which is what a lot of pundits are calling for.
Which reminds us why Geo Bush the elder did NOT continue on to Iraq after he knocked them out of Kuwait: he did not want to own Iraq's problems by becoming "an occupying power."
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete