05-10-2021, 09:02 AM
(05-09-2021, 05:45 PM)Jester Wrote: The pandemic is ongoing. Why would this be something to keep in mind? All this will track is where it hit first. When all is said and done, Brazil and India will have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of deaths, unless something rather surprising happens. Brazil is already 2nd highest cumulative deaths-per-million, and will no doubt overtake Italy shortly. India likely will not, but even a "modest" death toll is millions of dead people.
-Jester
Why? I don't know...there are websites where you can find these things.
The website I check has Brazil as 13th at the moment. Behin countries with severe lockdowns like Italy and Belgium. Likely the higher death tolls will be higher yes.....those countries generally have a less developed health care system
Anyway, what is your point? A modest death toll in India is millions of people? Yes indeed. If there were 500 billion people living on earth the death toll would be much higher still.
The countries that did very well will likely have to keep vaccinating their risk groups every year because if not the the casualties in the following years will be higher (again just like this happens with normal flue).
I am just saying that because of human rights, and constitutional law I find the reactions overdone. I understand you want to ensure the healthcare system will not overflow, but for that a better investment in this is more important. The difference between Germany and the Netherlands was very well visible the last year......where in the Netherlands our health care system is 'lean'.....meaning that when one crazy thing happens we are directly at full capacity and over.
In terms of 'saving' lives; (I wrote this before) the focus can be better on prevention and healthy life style. If an obese person dies on average 25 years earlier than a healthy person.....and with covid dies 27 years earlier.....isn't it better to work on preventing obesity.
Another thing is the question of poverty in 'rich' countries. In the netherlands the higher socio-economic classes live on average 7 years longer than those in the lower classes, while their healthy live span is around 15 years longer.
In Sweden the difference in life expectancy is even higher (15 years). And those are just a few examples that come to mind. I mean we can also discuss the life expectancy in rich countries in comparison with poor countries.
Covid numbers can just be read of from a list. But if you want to do something sensible with them is is better to dig deeper in the how and why. I guess you agree.